Talk:James Fenimore Cooper
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"As a satirist and observer he is simply the “Cooper who's written six volumes to prove he's as good as a Lord” of Lowell's clever portrait; his enormous vanity and his irritability find vent in a sort of dull violence which is exceedingly tiresome."
the author here suddenly jumps from reporting what others thing to making their own judgements its hard to follow.
Added reference to Mark Twain's criticism. --Veniceslug1 03:50, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] pov
There seems to be a lot of personal judgement about his works here, as in "Quitting America for Europe he published at Paris The Prairie (1826), the best of his books in nearly all respects, and The Red Rover, (1828), by no means his worst."
and also, "These excellent novels were, however, succeeded by one very inferior, The Wept of Wish-ton-Wish (1829); ... "
I think the wording needs to be altered somewhat to be a little more NPOV.Airosche 21:36, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
I haven't read any of Cooper's works, but I have to agree with the above opinions that find this article lacking in NPOV, especially under "Last Years and Legacy." Trashing him so viciously on aesthetic grounds smuggles in some unnamed standard of what makes for aesthetic quality, and that sort of thing went out of literary criticism more than 50 years ago. I mean, a Cooper lover can just come along and edit in that he's great, that his narratives are weaved together with a supreme deft, or some other high-falutin' praise, and that's no more insightful or persuasive than the present article's "He sucks."JimmyTheSaint 04:42, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
The last section is way too POV. Accurate, perhaps, but still POV. However, it sounds almost like the whole thing is quoted verbatim from someone else, and not attributed.DegreeAbsolute 01:23, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Gah, will someone please fix the obvious POV in this article or put up one of those swell tags. This makes me cry :(
- Tag added! Now someone just needs to go in and edit away! Midnightdreary 17:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Secret Service
Anyone know about any links to a group called the Society of Cincinnatus? It might be spelled differently. I heard this is a kind of secret service that he was involved in.--Lalonguecarabine 16:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
It's the Society of Cincinnati, and he likely was a member, as several of his contemporaries in Scarsdale were, but I can't find any documentation to that effect. Wikipedia has a full article. --Locho269 22:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Precaution - please undo the redirect
Please undo the redirect for Precaution - I don't know how to do this myself. Surely the book deserves its own page...Zigzig20s (talk) 10:58, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
