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[edit] Education

"classical training" - If that is known, then more about his education must be known as well. Yes, I want to know.

[edit] To avoid any edit wars

Before an edit ware breaks out over something minor like image choice....perhaps it's cast your opinions here. I think the "classic" photo in the info box and the more recent shot included in the section covering more up to date info is the better version. Feel free to comment/discuss other alternatives. Any altering of the current article should stop until some sort of consensus is arrived at here. 156.34.142.158 15:13, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

I agree that a "classic" photo or one taken during the musicians heyday would be best. Thank you 156.34.142.158 for trying to make sure no edit wars break out. - Patman2648 04:54, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cleanup?

The vast majority of this article seems hodge-podged together, with lots of NPOV problems, typos, and unsourced statements thrown in. I'm trying to go through the whole article as I have time, fixing what I can. If someone wants to help out, that would be great. TK-925 20:37, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Myself and I few other users have been trying our best to clean-up the article. I think most of it should be deleted anyway, most of it's not sourced. ĤĶ51Łalk 12:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
Better to find sources for statements than to just delete them, where possible, though I think that'll be somewhat hard with this article. TK-925 18:34, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Good job on the bio...but the group Bruce was in in 2001 with Reid and Worrel, no name is given for it.

Mulehead126 02:32, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Moved here from article

[edit] Trivia

  • He and Cream bandmates Ginger Baker and Eric Clapton have all played with each other in different groups. Bruce and Baker played together in the Graham Bond Organisation, BBM and Blues Incorporated, Clapton and Bruce played together near the end of Clapton's tenure with John Mayall's Bluesbreakers, and Baker and Clapton played together in the short-lived supergroup Blind Faith shortly after Cream's breakup.
  • Bruce plays harmonica on the Cream songs "Rollin' & Tumblin'," "Traintime," "Take It Back," "Four Until Late," and the studio version of "Spoonful" and "Sitting on top of the world" of 2005 concert.
  • He once owned Sanda Island in Scotland.[1]
  • When deciding on the set list for the Cream reunion in London, Bruce wanted to include I Feel Free, but was considered too complex. It was not included in the Royal Albert Hall shows, and it wasn't played at the Madison Square Garden shows.
  • His first Cream composition was N.S.U. According to the Clapton biography Crossroads: The Life and Music of Eric Clapton, the initials stand for Non-Specific Urethritis, a sexually transmitted infection in men.
  • Bruce says in Chris Welch's book, Cream: The Legendary Sixties Supergroup, that he "has no regrets that [he] didn't join Led Zeppelin when they asked [him]". While this may suggest that Bruce was the original choice of Zeppelin founder and guitarist Jimmy Page's for bassist/lead singer, in fact (as mentioned in Stephen Myatt's Book Jack), Page asked him to join as a second bass player, in the mid seventies. (John Paul Jones would eventually join Page's band as bassist and Robert Plant joined as lead vocalist.)
  • Bruce wrote the Cream song "We're Going Wrong" after having a fight with his wife, Janet Godfrey.
  • Bruce is said to play bass on and co-write the song "Apostrophe" [citation needed] on the 1974 Frank Zappa album of the same name. However, in 1992 he was interviewed by Wieslaw Weiss of Polish rock magazine Tylko Rock, and denied this:

(Tylko Rock, Oct. 1992, pp. 17) "WW: Can you tell me something about your cooperation with Frank Zappa?

  • JB: Sure, what do you wish to know? (laughs)
  • WW: You appeared on his Apostrophe album...
  • JB: Yes, as you know, at the time I was recording an album with Carla Bley, far more interesting one... you heard that?
  • WW: Yes, Escalator Over The Hill...
  • JB: Right. So Frank, whom I met earlier, appeared one day in the studio and asked me: "Can you take your cello and go to my session?" So I turned up in a NY studio with my cello, I'm listening to his music, pretty awful, and just don't know what to do with myself, and Frank says to me: "Listen, I would like you to play a sound, like this... whaaaaaang!!!" So I did what he asked me to do. Whaaaaaang!!! That was all. That was my input to Frank Zappa's most popular record! (laughs) "
  • He uses a custom Warwick fretless thumb bass.
  • Bruce guested with his old friend Dick Morrissey on the last Soft Machine album Land of Cockayne (1981).
  • After the death of John Entwistle in the summer of 2002, Bruce replaced Entwistle in the Todd Rundgren-organised all-star band tribute to the Beatles in the A Walk Down Abbey Road tour.

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