Talk:Jack Aubrey
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Added list of ships commanded - references etc to come soon Duncan 21:40, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
Isn't Aubrey's name actually Jonathan? I seem to remember that Jack is just his nickname, and that he signed his letters "Jonathan" or "Jon."? Akerkhof 04:08, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
Yes, he signed his letters "Jno Aubrey", which I believe is an archaic abbreviation for Jonathon. Here is an example:image MdTrFn 18:56, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
You might want to check, but I don't think Aubrey was knighted. Unless it takes place in the book "21", which I have yet to read. Shadowmane20 19:21, 10 November 2007 (EST)
Jack is described as having a "Bath ribbon" (Order of the Bath) when he's in full dress/portrait as of Desolation Island. Presumably O'Brian meant for him to have been knighted for his role in the Mauritius Campaign (like the historical Josias Rowley) but he didn't want everyone calling Jack "Sir Jack". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.34.14 (talk) 02:36, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure but I think its possible to be decorated with the Bath ribbon without earning the title of "Sir". Had Jack have been knighted, decorum would have required him to use the title. I seem to recall in the Ionian Mission there was a statement that he was to be Knighted but Andrew Wray caused him to be passed over.kjrjr —Preceding comment was added at 21:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
In order to have a sash of the Order of the Bath, you have to actually be a Knight Companion or higher, which is an automatic knighthood. I guess this is one of those frequent ommissions/inconsistencies that O'Brian tended to pepper in his work (for example in The Commodore, Clarissa Oakes mentions having been aboard the Nutmeg, when in Clarissa Oakes she only shows up aboard Surprise), but since Jack was up for a Baronetcy for his sinking of the Dutch 74 in Desolation Island (which was squished by Wray) I guess he might have been a K.B. at one point. It's possible, that like Cochrane, Jack was stripped of his knighthood for his role in the stock market fraud, and that Jack, who was never one for titles anyway, simply didn't care to be reinstated when he was exonerated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.97.252.227 (talk) 09:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Specifically, where is Jack described as wearing a Bath ribbon? I can't find it anywhere. What I can find are numerous mentions that had it not been for Andrew Wray's malignancy he would have been knighted but was not. He is never refered to as "sir" any where in the series. My opinion is that the title along with the post nomial "KB" should be removed from the entry unless it can be demonstrated that it belongs there.[User:kjrjr|kjrjr]] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.250.207.174 (talk) 18:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
- In my copy of 21, Chapter 2, Jack instructs Killick (on being told that his best coat has suffered from the voyage to and from Chile in the previous novel) to "Just look out my ribbon of the Bath, will you? It sets off an old coat very well." (p. 6482 of the WW Norton "Complete Aubrey-Maturin" set) Ubernostrum (talk) 14:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
The citation needed for O'Brian's picturing of Charlton Heston as Jack can be found here:http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0DEFDD143AF933A05752C1A9659C8B63 Not sure how to do the cite properly myself. PrePressChris (talk) 18:58, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
