Talk:Isuzu Bighorn

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Isuzu's lawsuit against Consumers Union was LOST. Numerous news outlets have reported this and so has Consumers Union: http://www.consumersunion.org/products/verdict.htm--Bryanmenard 20:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC) The Isuzu Trooper is not a large SUV, its a mid-size. Davez621 10:47, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

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The isuzu Trooper is a Great SUV its really sad isuzu replaced it. -.- No Isuzu Trooper had a V8 engine offered from factory... Bryan

I concur, the Isuzu Trooper at no time and in no country was offered with a V8 from the factory... Eric


DUDE THE ISUZU ALTERRA/ASCENDER STINKS, CANT BELIEVE THEY REPLACED THE TROOPER WITH IT!


Isuzu probably intended to offer a V8 Trooper at some point. I have two reasons to believe this:

1. The 3.5 V6 in the last generation Trooper is a 75-degree V6. There is no reason to make a clean-sheet 75-degree V6, because a 60-degree V would be even firing and therefore smoother. A 90-degree V8 would be even-firing, so a 75-degree V only makes sense if the engine family was intended to accomodate a V8 at some point.

2. Isuzu held some trademarks that implied 8-cylinder power, including "AWD/V8" and "ultim8." A V8 would make sense for Isuzu's commercial trucks, but not the AWD. Logically, this powertrain would have been in the Trooper. The only other possibility would have been for a V8 in a larger SUV that slotted above Trooper.

[1] [2] [3]Meersman 04:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 2009 Trooper in Europe

This is referenced in the article. Is there a source for this? Will it be a version of the Mu-7? I'll delete if this remains unreferenced for a while.Meersman 02:40, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] A little confused about engines

This page seems to suggest that the pre-1992 troopers only offered a I4 engine. But I owned a 1990 Trooper with a V6. Am I reading something wrong? 75.75.110.235 16:03, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Requested move

Isuzu Trooper → Isuzu Bighorn — Nominating as naming convention favors domestic name. The Bighorn according to the Japanese wikipage and the vehicle's official domestic site is the domestic name, wheras the Trooper is its export name —Willirennen (talk) 19:01, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

  • Comment what is the name used in English language markets? WP:COMMONNAME would seem to suggest keeping it at Trooper. 132.205.99.122 (talk) 19:12, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
  • The current naming convention is to title the article based on one objective criterion: the name the vehicle was first released under in its domestic market. This is because some vehicles are released under conflicting names in foreign countries. For example, the car released as "Isuzu Trooper" in the United States might be released as something else in Europe, and an unrelated car might be called the "Isuzu Trooper" in Europe. I don't suppose that it's the case here, but that is the idea, anyway. Dekimasuよ! 13:05, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
The first version turned up in UK branded as the Isuzu Trooper (though they never progressed beyond the staus of 'rarity' under this name). I do not know if the Isuzu Trooper - eg Greece (to take a country on the other side of capitalist Europe to which Japanese cars are sometimes imported and where this type of vehicle might be deemd suitable - if expensive - for the country districts) name applied elsewhere in Europe. Once General Motors started importing 'Troopers' branded as Vauxhalls (UK) or Opel (rest of Europe as far as I know) the ones with Isuzu Trooper labels seem to have faded out of the market. I do not know whether (or even when) the ones with Isuzu Trooper labels on them were formally withdrawn from sale, however, and even after they had been there's always the possibility of the odd grey import turning up imported with a Japanese (or other non European) brand name say three years old, courtesy of the relatively low prices of (relatively new) second hand vehicles in Japan. I do not know what it was called in Japan because I do not understand Japanese, but as far as I can make out from the wiki aricle in Japanese, it MIGHT have been Bighorn. Which is unlikely to mean much to most readers of the anglophone wikiCharles01 (talk) 14:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I can confirm that the Japanese name was Bighorn. Dekimasuよ! 11:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
Quoting Which is unlikely to mean much to most readers of the anglophone wiki, Like the Mazda Bongo, the Bighorn name is in fact notable to anglophone wiki as a source of ridicule known as Engrish and this is not an excuse to use as a oppose reason. There is a large number of website to prove this, these are the few examples...
Willirennen (talk) 00:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
It's not Engrish. There's nothing inherently wrong with the name, which probably comes from the Big Horn Mountains. Even if they come out with the Isuzu Grand Tetons next, we'll just have to make more fun of Wyoming. For that matter, how many native English speakers can pronounce Mazda correctly? Anyway, I'm sure everyone agrees that the request should be judged on its merits. Dekimasuよ! 10:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

This page was moved uncontroversially from "Isuzu Trooper" to "Isuzu Bighorn" in accordance with the discussion above and the listing at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Dekimasuよ! 01:22, 6 December 2007 (UTC)