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[edit] Edit by 81.190.120.63/81.190.91.136 Re: Anurexia

Please make a case for the phrase "sickly overweight" in place of "obese" as an improvement to the article. Bruddah Iz was obese, and the article on obesity is very thorough. Also, I have undone your flagrant vandalism to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Proffe Randydeluxe 20:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biographies

I created a new section called Biographies because the one recently inserted into the "early years" section reads like an advertisement. I had a shot at de-advertising the entry but decided to simply move it to an alternate section.

[edit] New Picture?

Could someone get a better, non-copywritten picture of Iz for the article? Especially one of him playing the ukelele!

Try this:

http://photos.lacoccinelle.net/07/73/40773.jpg

 That seems to be from the Star Bulletin:

http://images.google.ch/imgres?imgurl=http://starbulletin.com/97/06/26/news/izb.gif&imgrefurl=http://starbulletin.com/97/06/26/news/story1.html&h=505&w=360&sz=116&tbnid=ZZoxhyOholfU6M:&tbnh=130&tbnw=93&prev=/images%3Fq%3Disrael%2Bkamakawiwo%2527ole%26um%3D1&start=1&sa=X&oi=images&ct=image&cd=1

 so i guess it is copy-written Domandologo (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Love of cheesburgers?

"He was described as always cheerful and positive, and was best known for his love of the land, the people of Hawaiʻi and cheese burgers."

Is this correct? I suspect the cheeseburger comment was vandalism, but I wanted to ask here. — BrianSmithson 16:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Never mind. Recent vandalism. Removed. — BrianSmithson 16:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Not that it is important to the article, but Israel (pronouced w/ only 2 syllables) was quite well known for his love of cheeseburgers. Part of his weight problem came from a lot of people at his concerts bringing him (and his brother Skippy) burgers which he ate between songs.Kingsley911 22:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Is this really true? I have heard elsewhere he had an endocrine problem. Are both true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.223.193.144 (talk) 08:41, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Version of "somewhere..." in movies

I've seen sources (such as http://www.faqs.org/qa/qa-4033.html) which states that the version used in Finding Forrester isn't the one by Israel, or at least not performed by him. If so, this should be more clear in the article.

There is more than one version of "Somewhere Over the Rainbow" on the Finding Forrester soundtrack. Israel sings Over the Rainbow/What a Wonderful World and Bill Frisell plays an instrumental version. --Uruz7 06:43, 21 July 2006 (UTC)


Can anybody explain why the song was not used on the 50 First Dates Soundtrack record? It was used in the film in a great way but not on the record...odd.

[edit] now defunct television network?

"Additionally, it featured prominently in the 2000 summer series "Young Americans" on the now-defunct WB television network..."

last I checked, the WB TV network is still going strong. Am I misreading this?

WB is merging with UPN 129.199.224.169 23:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)ahassan05

[edit] Strange lead

It seems a tad strange to start an article with the place someone lived and then their age of death, without saying anywhere that he was a singer and musician... --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 05:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] music career / early years

Would it make sense to discuss Iz's entire music career within the section "music career" rather than only mentioning the Makaha Sons as an "early years" event. It would be neat (imo) to have biography entries such as moving to Makaha, and the importance of Niihau to his music in the "early years". And then in the "music career" discuss both his career with Makaha Sons as well as his solo career? Popoi 20:11, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Any published sources that explain the resurgence?

I noted that "Rainbow/World" wasn't released as a single until 2006 or later (announced in '06) and made the charts in 2007. Are there any published sources that discuss the fact that years after his death, suddenly (it seems sudden to me) there's this increase in recognition outside Hawai'i? Lawikitejana 22:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but if you can be a little bit more specific, I can provide the information you require. Are you just trying to expand the article or are you requesting a source? —Viriditas | Talk 03:45, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
I was saying that the article should be expanded to explain that, if possible. Lawikitejana 10:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Ok, I will attempt to find this information tomorrow if you don't get to it before I do. —Viriditas | Talk 10:39, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
Sorry about the delay. Carroll's IZ: Voice of the People discusses this in "The Legacy of israel Kamakawiwoʻole", pp.163-167. I'll see what I can add. —Viriditas | Talk 08:42, 28 August 2007 (UTC)


[edit] CNN's theme song for September 11 Attacks

I recall CNN repeatedly played Iz's "Somewhere over the Rainbow" as their theme-song for the September 11 tragedy. Anyone go reference to this? Why did CNN chose to play this song along with footage of the planes striking the towers and collapses? This was the first time I'd heard the song and loved it. But the usage I thought was inappropriate. Its also eerily inappropriate because Israel is Iz's name and half the world now believes that Israel were behind the false-flag attacks of 9/11.

Your comment confuses me... False flag attacks?71.92.68.51 (talk) 00:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Name: Israel?

Anyone know why he was named Israel?

[edit] Added earlier years

I added Iz's involvment with his brothers' band, which he co-founded, before his solo career.

This timespan is significant because it was his success with the Makaha Sons that helped him get noticed and subsequently launch his successful solo career. It was also during this time that he first performed the famous "Hawaii'78" that became an anthem for Hawaiian independence.

I'm sure others will see issues with the technical aspects of how it was inserted and I welcome format editing to my contribution, but the material remains factual and can be referenced to the group's web site makahasons.com as needed.

Raygellenbeck (talk) 19:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)Ray Gellenbeck

[edit] Style of music

The article doesn't seem to state just what style of music he played. Pop music? Hawaiian folk music? Nurg (talk) 10:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Not a contraction

It is interesting to note here that part of his name, anoʻi, when simplified to noʻi may be a contraction of the Hawaiian word, nohi. Nohi means "bright-colored, vivid, as the rainbow"

It is my understanding that what appears to be an apostrophe in Hawaiian is nothing of the sort. It is a glottal stop and is considered a consonant. Thus I believe the statement above is wrong and should be removed. See Hawaiian language NjtoTX (talk) 02:28, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] eat 500 donuts?

I am suspecting the phrase "He would later go on to eat 500 donuts" is vandalism... can someone find a reference for this?