Talk:Islamic view of Solomon

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I tried to reword this in a bit more of an encyclopedic fashion. I had to assume the person who originally wrote this used the Qur'an as the source. If someone sees something not in the Qur'an, please correct it.

Ok, so does this article being named Qur'anic account of Solomon instead of Islamic view of Solomon mean that i can not include hadith based views in it? In that case, do we also need Hadith's account of Solomon? --Striver 07:54, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

I see no reason why this article should not be Islamic view of Solomon, it seems far too exclusive otherwise and its not like Islam ignores the Qu'ran or anything. Homestarmy 17:43, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

My sentiment exactly, no reason to narrow it down to the Qur'an. --Striver 18:50, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

Ok, can a admin make the rename?-striver

nm, i just did it.--Striver 00:53, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Names

It is utterly ridiculous to retale the Islamic tradition using Jewish names. In islamic tradition the names are Sulayman, Dawud, etc. We are not translating names from books. We are using them as they are, not to make confusion.

If assuming that both Bible and Qu'ran speak about the same historical perosns, Solomon and Sulayman as characters from mythological tradition are different. To say that Solomon ruled Jinn is as culturally ridiculous as to say that this poor Kazakh man wears a kippah. Mukadderat 05:16, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

We are not using jewish names, we are using the most accepted English name, this is the english wikipedia. The article is named "view", since that is the standardized way of presenting views. If you have a problem with the Qur'anic view, take it up with its author, wikipedia is not interested about "truth". --Striver 14:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

"Most accepted" is dubious claim. Wikipedia writes "Suleiman is is a male Arabic given name that means "Man of Peace". I.e.., it is a separate, acceptable name used in English language. Likewise Qu'ran in not "most accepted" English spelling, which is Quran. I explained my reason: it is Islamic tradition, where the name of the mythological figure who ruled both mortals and Jinns is "Sulayman". Personal names are not translatable. We dont write Solomon the Magnificient. We write "Suleiman the Magnificent. I don't have problems with the Qu'ranic view, it seems you have. That wikipedia is not interested about "truth" is your opinion, very dubious IMO. Mukadderat 16:34, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I also protest your unilateral move done without any previous discussion in this talk page. The page referred to Sulayman, who is among Prophets of Islam, for very long time, since 2003 and has majority of wikilinks to the title with this name without any objections. Mukadderat 16:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

This issue has been disscused and lenght at Islamic view of Jesus, were after a long dispute, it became clear that the correct name of the article was not Isa or anything else, but Islamic view of Jesus. As you can see, i received a barnstart for it on my main page. Please do not move this article against decisions made by the consensus of the wikipedia community. I am going to yet again to move the article to the name agree there. If you do not agree, please try to change consensus at Talk:Islamic view of Jesus before unitarily deciding what this article should be named. --Striver 06:17, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't see any vote for consensus in this page. All I see you "being bold" Mukadderat

Not on this talk page, on Talk:Islamic view of Jesus. --Striver 06:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The Suleiman the Magnificent case is named so since that is his most prominent english name, while the most commonly known english name for the subject of this article is Solomon. --Striver 06:31, 24 October 2006 (UTC)