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[edit] neutrality and better sourcing needed

the emotive language really needs to be removed. i have glanced at this article a few times, but hadn't realised how skewed the prose is. most of the references (when provided) also do not appear reliable, so there's some accuracy concerns here too. ITAQALLAH 20:19, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

some improvements have been made, yet the article is still quite poorly sourced (as it uses unreliable sources), and focuses heavily on the topic from a Sikh perspective. ITAQALLAH 03:33, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
I am using the best sources available. I doubt any Muslim scholars have paid close attention to Sikhism. If you have any specific complaints, make them. I am removing your spurious tag until you stop being so strangely vague. Arrow740 04:08, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] More Facets Need to be revealed

The article is one sided on what the earlier sikh gurus said about muslims. Sikhs and Muslim have a bloody history. For the most part sikhs and muslims have had an uneasy if not hostile relation. Sikhs started carrying knives after their contfronations with muslims. Sikhs find it repugnant to eat halal meat. They beleive in painless killing called Jhatka. Sikhs beleive that gurunanak visited mecca. Muslims dont beleive that. The sikh story is that his feet were pointed towards mecca and when a muslim tried to move his feet to the other direction, he saw mecca there. This story clearly was added later on. The degree of hostility say a sikh muslim intermarriage will cause is quite low when compared to a sikh-buddhist, sikh-christian or sikh-hindu. This has been obsereved several times in UK, canada and punjab india. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.97.103.98 (talk) 01:20, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Its true, the 10th Guru forbade Sikhs eating halal meat, circumcision even hair cutting, there is no mention that he was executed by Khan's warriors (rightly or wrongly) intermarriage is forbidden. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.3.244 (talk) 21:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Do you know the difference between attempt to murder and execution. Ajjay (talk) 16:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The writer of this article does not know the difference between Sufism & Islam

This article needs some serious input from Islamic scholars. Its heavily one sided considering its in a major series on Islam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.3.244 (talk) 21:41, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism by Ajjay

There is no mention of the bloodshed b/w the Islamic rulers and all the Gurus. Even the battles are watered down to give the impression to the reader that the Mughals and Guru Gobind were parts of the same football team.

There is no mention that Sikhs cannot consume Halal food

Secondly, you mistake Muslims for Sufis, its like mistaking Buddhists for Sikhs just because both faith are dharmic in nature. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.3.244 (talk) 17:20, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

This article is about relationship and influences and not contradictions. Kindly stay inline with topic. There exist seperate articles for wars between Sikhs and mughals (not muslims).ThanksAjjay (talk) 06:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I suggest you read the article on Sufism before coming to an erroneous conclusion about the relationship between Islam and Sufism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.240.159 (talk) 14:38, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you tell me where I have mentioned Mughals anywhere in this article ??

reply to above unsigned comment
"There is no mention of the bloodshed b/w the Islamic rulers and all the Gurus.
Even the battles are watered down to give the impression to the reader that the Mughals and Guru Gobind were parts of the same football team".

[edit] Vandalism by user: Mahaakaal

Kabir was not a muslim, Kabir and the subsequent Gurus are not considered Prophets, please click on Kabir and learn about him

[edit] Gobinds 'friend'

Does the fact that Gobind having a muslim 'friend' make this article plausible ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.59.194 (talk) 08:57, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Yes it does. Guru Gobind Singh was teacher of Sikhs and his relationship was with imminent muslim/Sufi religious teachers.Mahaakaal (talk) 14:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)


Two sections which were removed were done so because of the trivial nature and does not depict the true comparisons between the two faiths from either a philosophical or spiritual approach, please note even from a historical context it bears little or no relevance since Guru Gobind Singh was at odds with the Islamic administration of that period and was eventually assassinated.

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Guru_Gobind_Singh

Please don't make this article a mess by citing un-reliable sources. Your edit history shows that you don't even know what you are adding or removing.Mahaakaal (talk) 14:32, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] What the hell is this?

Is not this user [User: 90.192.59.194] a propagandist. He is at a wrong place looking for possible converts! This is the link added by him in the article [1]. I almost fell down from my seat laughing...:-)Mahaakaal (talk) 14:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Was that after your sister brought Mr Khan home for lunch or before :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.59.194 (talk) 20:40, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Its totally biased

Too many references to Sikhism in the references section and not even ONE to Islam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.3.2 (talk) 20:36, 27 May 2008 (UTC)