Talk:Is There Anybody Out There?

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Is there any other concensus (apart from me), that suggests the guitar part was heavily influenced by the James Bond Theme? Or vice versa?

no. they sound similar, but that's hardly encyclopedia worthy. --Progjunky 12:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't even agree that they sound similar, apart from the fact that they both feature a tone which rises chromatically twice and then descends to its starting point. If that's all it takes for you to think you're hearing the same song, your brain is crude, almost reptilian in its simplicity. I don't even know how you function, how you remember where to void your bladder and bowels on a daily basis. Honestly. These songs sound nothing alike. --63.25.21.154 (talk) 13:44, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

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[edit] Parts II and III

Should the demo's parts II and III be mentioned here? Rotring 20:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

I think you can add a little sentance.--Mastercheif 22:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
ooh man, don't you think those awful things should best be forgotten? haha --Progjunky 12:04, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
No, and how is that funny? --63.25.21.154 (talk) 13:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
YES. As much as you want to write! Quote the lyrics -- The usual copyright restrictions may not apply to unreleased demos. Anything!
--63.25.21.154 (talk) 13:35, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] The live version

Who play the classical guitar on the live version, from the Wall live? Is it Gilmour, or were they assisted by another guitarist? 129.241.28.132 14:16, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

it's gilmour. he said that when they were recording the album, he thought he couldn't play it, so another guitarist was brought in, but ironically he played it himself during the tour and had no trouble with it. i forget which interview this was, sorry, but it was a video interview, perhaps some tv documentary about the wall.--Progjunky 10:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

The deal is, Gilmour couldn't play it fingerstyle, the appropriate style for a "Spanish" sounding piece like this. With fingerstyle, you pluck down with your thumb, and upwards with your fingers. Not many rock guitarists use their fingers, even with arpeggio parts. Some use hybrid picking, in which the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th fingers are used, but a pick is also used in place of the thumb. Almost none of them (Mark Knopfler being a notable exception) use their thumb for strumming or plucking. Gilmour recorded a version in which he used a leather pick (I've never heard of leather guitar picks, but one would assume they produce a softer, more "human" sound than regular plastic picks), but decided it just wasn't good enough.
I'd add this to the article, but I don't know where I read it. I trust my memory, but I wouldn't expect anyone else to rely on it.
I would bet that the version you hear in the film is Gilmour's version.
Anyway, I'm sure he has no difficulty playing it with a pick (leather or otherwise). It isn't really a difficult piece, if you don't insist on fingerstyle. --63.25.21.154 (talk) 13:27, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Found the source -- Musician magazine. Worth a read as the classic example of what a dick Gilmour was in interviews. Really, it seems people automatically think of Waters as the asshole and Gilmour as the nice guy, but the fact is, Waters didn't devote his interviews to slagging off Gilmour. In fact, Musician interviewed Waters just a few months after this, and Waters talked about . . . Amused to Death, and the philosophical concerns that drove him to write it. Seriously, compare the post-1985 interviews. Waters has certaintly said a few unkind things about Gilmour, but generally he's the one who wants to discuss his WORK -- since it has sincerity and intrinsic value -- whereas Gilmour is happy to keep the topic on how beastly Roger was to work with. And the man had no shame, slagging off The Wall in Berlin show, which can only hurt the charity. Nor did he care about hypocrisy, frequently denigrating Waters's abilities as a bassist, then going on to complain that Waters criticized Mason and Wright's playing too much. Poor fragile Richard has been a mediocre keyboardist all his life, but somehow that's really Roger Waters's fault. What a complete asshole.
Anyway, here it is: http://www.pinkfloyd-co.com/band/interviews/djg/djgmu.html
--63.25.0.178 (talk) 06:29, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] is it just me

or does it also sound a bit like call of ktulu/hangar 18 —Preceding unsigned comment added by I'M POOP (talk) 22:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

It's definitely just you. Nobody even knows what your talking about . . . or cares.
Remember, the purpose of Wikipedia Talk pages is to discuss the article, and how to make the article better. Not the topic of the article.
--63.25.21.154 (talk) 13:33, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Ezrin wrote it. Read your Schaffner.

I removed the citeneeded regarding the fact of Gilmour's unchallenged assertion that Bob Ezrin composed the guitar instrumental of "Is There Anybody Out There?" [Actually, I went ahead and cited it myself.] I am tired of people who haven't bothered to read Nicholas Schaffner's authoritative biography, A Saucerful of Secrets: The Pink Floyd Odyssey, questioning basic facts that have been available in this book since 1990. Gilmour told Schaffner that Ezrin wrote the piece, and Waters has had 18 years to deny it. He hasn't denied it.

Wikipedians, the next time you go to add a citeneeded to a Pink Floyd article, ask yourself if maybe the problem is you. There are several good books about Pink Floyd (and a ton of bad ones). Perhaps you should try reading one of them? [Wow, what a snotty remark. Sorry. Let me just say, I think contributors to WikiProject Pink Floyd should familiarize themselves with Schaffner's book.]
--63.25.21.154 (talk) 13:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[Edited] --63.25.238.237 (talk) 12:45, 9 March 2008 (UTC)