Talk:IPhone OS

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[edit] Infobox Photo

The infobox photo needs to be a screenshot of an iPod Touch or iPhone (iPhone OS, not an iPhone), not a photo of one of these devices. Althepal (talk) 20:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Done Althepal (talk) 20:10, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] iPhone OS or OS X Mobile?

Is it officially iPhone OS or Mac OS X Mobile? Until seeing this article, I thought it was the latter. Can we get a source? I see in the Apple discussions, everyone seems to call it iPhone OS, but still... Althepal (talk) 20:00, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you, AlistairMcMillan. Althepal (talk) 20:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
The entire SDK and all documentation available (after free registration) at http://developer.apple.com/iphone calls it "iPhone OS" -- KelleyCook (talk) 20:14, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
When Jobs annouced the iPhone at MacWorld 2007, He said that it ran "OS X" (Note that he did not say "Mac" as in "Mac OS X").
I don't think that calling this article "OS X" would be suitable because "OS X" most commonly refers to "Mac OS X".
Taking into consideration references to "OS X" and "iPhone OS" (In the SDK), then wouldn't it be called "iPhone OS X"?
--The Land of Smeg (talk) 06:35, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
That's not what Apple calls it on the page for WWDC08. I guess it's not "OS X" any more. Guy Harris (talk) 02:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

I support the merge of iPhone SDK and iPhone OS. Mathiastck (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

I support merge of iPhone SDK and iPhone OS also. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.192.32.226 (talk) 23:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Nah. Whitedealer (talk) 00:33, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I support the merge —Cliffb (talk) 01:03, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I doubt there really is much more to talk about. I believe a section in the iPhone OS should be sufficient. -- KelleyCook (talk) 21:52, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I would not merge - not yet anyway. The SDK isn't the OS. The kit and its release are quite notable, as this dominated the news for months before and during its debut. As developers explore the nuances of the SDK, there will undoubtedly be more worthy information included in this article. If not, then merge. TunaSushi (talk) 15:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] iPod touch

RoddyYoung (talk) 14:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

What about it? TunaSushi (talk) 15:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Eh, nothing. Whitedealer (talk) 00:36, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Java

Thank you for expanding it. Whitedealer (talk) 22:39, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Most of the "expansion" was just undoing most of these changes. (The only part that wasn't was leaving in the change to the section name.) Guy Harris (talk) 23:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] iPhone OS image as sppedy deletion?

okay, someone who chose the iPhone OS image as speedy deletion should GET A LIFE.

There is no free alternative to the image, and therefore is okay to use the image as fair use, since without the screenshot, it would be hard to describe how the OS looks like.

If there person deletes the image, then delete the other images in Mac OS pages as well. Bentoman (talk) 14:48, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

the image's quality does not lead to any need to keep it. the article would be better off without a picture than that thing, IMHO. – ɜɿøɾɪɹℲ ( тɐʟк • ¢ʘи†ʀ¡βs ) 04:37, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Screenshot+Third Party Apps

That screenshot was taken with a Scanner. It looks horrible becausr the scanner and the iPhone have lights. I suggest that it can be replaced with one from the iPod Touch, that way it would emphatise the fact that both devices use the same operative system. Also, I suggest that you add a Third Party Software because I is strong and I think at least 20% of the owners of these devices have unlocked their system in order to install it. Wikifan21century (talk) 07:22, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Looking at the full size image, it seems unlikely that it was scanned: at that size we'd see the individual pixels. It definitely looks rendered to me, especially comparing small details to it and my iPhone. I've yet to see a decent, reliable ref for a % of jailbroken phones, but since this is more about the OS itself, maybe that should be mentioned in the iPhone article? – ɜɿøɾɪɹℲ ( тɐʟк • ¢ʘи†ʀ¡βs ) 13:20, 1 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Kernel

I'm no expert on the area. But I think MacOS X is not actually based on the Mach kernel, as stated in the article, but on the XNU kernel, which derived from the Mach. I didn't want to just change that, but if someone feels I'm right, please do. You can check MacOS X's article on Wikipedia to see what I mean. Again, I didn't just change it because I wanted somebody else's opinion, but please, do change it if I'm right. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.146.124.117 (talk) 04:33, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

I too thought it seemed a bit odd, but it is almost the same as the text Apple uses on the iPhone Dev Center (registration required). That page says: "In iPhone OS, the underlying system architecture, and many of the technologies, are similar to those found in Mac OS X. The kernel in iPhone OS is based on a variant of the same basic Mach kernel that is found in Mac OS X." — Epastore (talk) 17:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] new screenshot

I uploaded a new screenshot, taken shortly ago on my phone. it looks like WP hasn't regenerated the smaller versions yet, but if you click on it in the page, you'll see that it goes to a color-correct and native sized image. – ɜɿøɾɪɹℲ ( тɐʟк • ¢ʘи†ʀ¡βs ) 00:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] iPhone OS: fork or branch?

Is it more of a fork or a branch (i.e. changes in one are merged into the other or is the core basis outright identical) of Mac OS X? To what extent? —Agentbla (talk) 12:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


[edit] Added info to 3rd party application section

I added some stuff if thats ok ;)--JayBB (talk) 12:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Move page to "OS X iPhone"

Here's my justification. Any objection opinions? Butterfly0fdoom (talk) 21:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

i object as
  • its not really oficial yet
  • it could be just OS X, and iPhone being a discription, again we dont know yet

TrevorLSciAct (talk) 02:11, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

I think it's pretty clear from what the banners say, but I guess waiting until Monday won't matter. Butterfly0fdoom (talk) 02:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
that's all i'm saying, better to just wait TrevorLSciAct (talk) 03:10, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
I would want something more official than a banner, as the massive amount of documentation in the (beta) SDK and the Steve Jobs iPhone OS 2.0 intro was pretty definitive on the matter. -- KelleyCook (talk) 13:28, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

Well I watched the keynote and it really didn't clear any thing up, it doesnt seem apple's being very consistent with the name of the OS (because frankly its the device that requires marketing, not the OS inside), I think it should stay here. If anyone who was physically at the event has any light to shed that would be nice TrevorLSciAct (talk) 02:06, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2008/06/09snowleopard.html accoding to this, I say the move is safe, tho would it not be better to have one "OS X" page, then break it down to Mac OS X and OS X iPhone? And it looks like they may phase out the Mac in Mac IS X, but this has not been done yet. TrevorLSciAct (talk) 05:49, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
The newly updated iPhone developer connection page ( http://developer.apple.com/iphone/ ) still says "iPhone OS", so again the official name is unclear. It still might be good to wait a bit. -- KelleyCook (talk) 14:27, 10 June 2008 (UTC)