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I added template "unreferenced". As a remedy I suggest a quick web search for authoritative info about transcribing speech sounds in Hebrew characters. First stop is the Academy of the Hebrew Language site. Second stop is the Hebrew-language Wikipedia, to see whether they have cited any transcription method. I will spend a little time on this right away. But if I don't bring the results today, it means that I ran out of time. --Hoziron (talk) 16:47, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

As I suspected, I ran out of time. Here's where I stopped:

• Which direction is this article going? I came here from the message "For transliteration to Hebrew, see International Phonetic Alphabet for Hebrew." That suggests going from sounds (or IPA) to Hebrew writing. But then I noticed the "other symbols used in transcription", which are for IPA, not Hebrew writing. That suggests going from Hebrew writing to IPA.
• I found the Academy's new rules for transcribing multiple other languages (as sounds) to Hebrew writing. [1] I got as far as making this chart for consonants:

Transcription to Hebrew writing per Academy of the Hebrew Language
IPA	sound as in AHL chart	Hebrew writing
p	p	פּ
b	b	בּ
t	t	ט
d	d	ד
tʃ	tš	צ׳
dʒ	ǧ	ג׳
k	k	ק
		כּ is established spelling for certain words
g	g	ג
f	f	פ
v	v	ו when initial or when medial but not next to /o/ or /u/
		ב when final or when medial next to /o/ or /u/
θ	θ	ת׳
		ס is established spelling for certain Spanish words
ð	ð	ד׳
s	s	ס
z	z	ז
ʃ	š	שׁ
ʒ	ž	ז׳
h	h	ה
m	m	מ
n	n	נ
l	l	ל
ʁ	r	ר
w	w	ו
		וו when medial and Hebrew spelling is unpointed
j	y	י
		יי when so dictated by rules for unpointed spelling in Hebrew
x	x	ח׳
		ח is established spelling for certain words
		כ is established spelling for certain words
ʔ		א
ʦ	ts	צ
		טס when it spans morphemes such as plural "s"

--Hoziron (talk) 18:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

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I moved the (ref) tag to the talk page. Since this isn't an article, normal sourcing does not apply. Rather, it is a convention followed on Wikipedia. It doesn't need to be supported by anything outside of Wikipedia, though of course normal consensus applies. kwami (talk) 07:26, 3 May 2008 (UTC)