Talk:Inuktitut syllabics

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A couple of comments: 1) The /ɬ/ sound is currently represented on this page as <ɫ>. According to the ICI (Inuit Cultural Institut) standard, this ought to be ł. 2) On the syllabics chart, the /h/ final is shown as ᐦ, this I believe is incorrect, and should be changed to ᕼ. 3) One might want to add the ai-pai-tai syllabics to the chart.

I would change these things myself, except that the chart is a graphic. Languagegeek 05:36, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

What is the ai-pai-tai system? I wouldn't mind at all seeing the graphic chart replaced with a text-based chart if that is better for correcting and adding new information. —Tokek 15:00, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

For information on the "ai-pai-tai" see this. There are some problems with Languagegeek's comments. Because they made them in August it may be that the chart shown is now up to date. Also they seem to have used an odd/different font set. Take a look at List of land mammals of Nunavut (don't use IE 7) and if you see a set of boxes then you probably need the linked fonts. However, I'm not sure what sounds Languagegeek is referring to because all I see there are boxes. Using an image rather than a text based chart ensures that everybody can see the syllabics. If you are looking at this from a library then there is a good chance that you can't install the necessary fonts. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:34, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

Safari browser on my Mac shows Inuktitut syllabics fine, without any additional installs. I guess this is because, as the link you provided mentions, Apple put effort in supporting this script. I created a text-based version just in case it may be useful in the future:

ᐃ	ᐄ	i	ᐅ	ᐆ	u	ᐊ	ᐋ	a	ᐦ	h
ᐱ	ᐲ	pi	ᐳ	ᐴ	pu	ᐸ	ᐹ	pa	ᑉ	p
ᑎ	ᑏ	ti	ᑐ	ᑑ	tu	ᑕ	ᑖ	ta	ᑦ	t
ᑭ	ᑮ	ki	ᑯ	ᑰ	ku	ᑲ	ᑳ	ka	ᒃ	k
ᒋ	ᒌ	gi	ᒍ	ᒎ	gu	ᒐ	ᒑ	ga	ᒡ	g
ᒥ	ᒦ	mi	ᒧ	ᒨ	mu	ᒪ	ᒫ	ma	ᒻ	m
ᓂ	ᓃ	ni	ᓄ	ᓅ	nu	ᓇ	ᓈ	na	ᓐ	n
ᓯ	ᓰ	si	ᓱ	ᓲ	su	ᓴ	ᓵ	sa	ᔅ	s
ᓕ	ᓖ	li	ᓗ	ᓘ	lu	ᓚ	ᓛ	la	ᓪ	l
ᔨ	ᔩ	ji	ᔪ	ᔫ	ju	ᔭ	ᔮ	ja	ᔾ	j
ᕕ	ᕖ	vi	ᕗ	ᕘ	vu	ᕙ	ᕚ	va	ᕝ	v
ᕆ	ᕇ	ri	ᕈ	ᕉ	ru	ᕋ	ᕌ	ra	ᕐ	r
ᕿ	ᖀ	qi	ᖁ	ᖂ	qu	ᖃ	ᖄ	qa	ᖅ	q
ᖏ	ᖐ	ngi	ᖑ	ᖒ	ngu	ᖓ	ᖔ	nga	ᖕ	ng
ᙱ	ᙲ	nngi	ᙳ	ᙴ	nngu	ᙵ	ᙶ	nnga	ᖖ	nng
ᖠ	ᖡ	ɫi	ᖢ	ᖣ	ɫu	ᖤ	ᖥ	ɫa	ᖦ	ɫ

—Tokek 15:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Strange, the top right on IE based (next to the h) is shown as a ? but on Firefox is a ? in a box. Also every occurrence of the figure to the right of the ᖦ on the bottom line is also a box in IE but OK on Firefox. I now see that Languagegeek's comments show fine on Firefox. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 10:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

If you’re seeing empty boxes instead of characters, then your computer doesn’t have Unicode fonts which support these characters. Perhaps the syllabary chart can be shown in text on the page, with a link to a graphic version. Here are my points: 1) the last row of the syllabary chart shows a l with an imposed tilde (l with a squiggy). According to the ICI (Inuit Cultural Institut) standard, this ought to be ł (l with a slanted bar). 2) The syllabary chart shows /h/ being written with " (looking like straight quotes). This is certainly how it is written in Cree, but everything I’ve ever seen shows that Inuktitut writes the /h/ sound with a character which looks like a capital H. Therefore, I’d propose to change the chart as follows:

ᐃ	ᐄ	i	ᐅ	ᐆ	u	ᐊ	ᐋ	a	ᕼ	h
ᖠ	ᖡ	łi	ᖢ	ᖣ	łu	ᖤ	ᖥ	ła	ᖦ	ł

Languagegeek 17:04, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

I currently have the Pigiarniq, Prosyl, Nunacom and a couple of other syllabic fonts. In your last example everthing is showing up correctly with no boxes although the original comments still show as boxes. I wonder why the ł in the first chart appers as a box. I looked at several pages and it comes out as a ł. By the way anyone with IE7 installed will not see syllabics at all no matter what font. They will be required to view pages in Firefox. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 18:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC)