Talk:Introduction of the euro

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[edit] Big merge

Please, join the discussion on the articles merging on the Euro talk page. Don't write anything here to avoid writing the same in different places. Thanks.--Dima1 (talk) 16:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Aftermath

I had dual currency receipts with totals in Euros & Greek drachmas and Euros & Spanish pesetas in 2007, but haven't put this in the article, as I am not sure if they are a legal requirement in France, but just an option in Greece and Spain
Arjayay (talk) 15:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I didn't put it in, but I went to a supermarket there a year or so ago, and it still did print the franc equivalent at the bottom of the receipt.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Partial merge into this article from Maltese euro coins, as per discussion

Some information in the article Maltese euro coins does not follow the topic or subject of the article. As per discussion on the talk page there, the sections Design Selection Process, Euro Changeover and Adoption, Euro Centres in Malta and Gozo and parts of Collector Coins will be integrated into this article to further elaborate on the subject of euro introduction. Since Malta is one of three recent EMU members which are not represented as part of this article's topic, the integration will provide an update. Cheers. The € • T/C 08:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure if Design Selection Process can accuratly be a part of this article. Any suggestions as to where that section can go? Cheers. The € • T/C 08:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it would be a good idea to integrate the Euro Changeover and Adoption into this article, I do think that Design Selection Process is still a relevant part of the Maltese euro coins article however if there is a more suited article I wouldn't object. I would suggest that for Euro Centres in Malta and Gozo the availability of information centers should be mentioned in this article and give a link to a list that contains the list of locations.Kevin hipwell (talk) 09:43, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

If you merge it here, I will be trying to cut it back considerably. We did not go into the nuts and bolts, and we're not listing the (I think it is) 53 regional banks where you can exchange DM for euro. We're not going to need the Euro information centres, for example. If you want to keep all the info, I suggest its own article, say Introduction of the Euro in Malta, with a summary section here and a main article to that article.--Wehwalt (talk) 09:53, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
Wehwalt, as Kevin hipwell mentioned above, the idea is to include a reference to the fact that there were centers, not list them and then provide an outside link to a full list. Cheers. The € • T/C 19:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I'm inclined to leave "Design selection process" in the Maltese euro coins article... at least until we can find a better home for it. Cheers. The € • T/C 19:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Just do your best not to overwhelm the article. The Malta situation should only be a small part of it.--Wehwalt (talk) 19:39, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
I'm not sure what 'overwhelm' would constitute, but the Slovenian, Cypriot and Maltese adoption of the euro are integral parts of this topic, since they have become a part of the EMU. This is the first step in improving the article to include details of those country's introduction of the euro, so to speak. Cheers. The € • T/C 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

I've just gone ahead with completing the integration of information from Maltese euro coins into this article. Cheers. The € • T/C 21:56, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion, what has been done in this article and in the Maltese euro coins article, makes now a lot of sense. I do believe the new user that contributed all this information in the Maltese article came up with a lot of valid and recent information, worth a lot, it may be worth to search for the same information for the other countries. Also the "Design selection process", again to my opinion, makes a lot of sense to be kept there. I wish we have the same information for the other countries (I have tried) but unfortunately, the designs of the coins that never made it are copyrighted material, and cannot be simply displayed here.
I would suggest separating out the Maltese (and other expansion material) from the story of what happened in the initial introduction. As it stands now, we're reading about what happened in December 2001, we jerk ahead to December 2007, back to January 2002, back to January 2008. It reads a little disjointed. I suggest we complete the story of the initial introduction, have a section for Malta, then talk about Slovenia and Cyprus. If we do get info on the other countries, it will make things even more disjointed, do you see what I mean?--Wehwalt (talk) 11:15, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Yes Wehwalt I agree the expansion should not really be 'mixed' with the initial introduction.
It should come after it as a new section with the objective to become its own article.Kevin hipwell (talk) 18:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I've done it. I deleted duplicate info on the wooden box sets, and also deleted the Cypriot and Slovene info as it is really part of Enlargement of the eurozone. If you can find info on how things were done in Slovenia or Cyprus, by all means include it. Do we have info on the exchangability of the Maltese Pound?--Wehwalt (talk) 21:06, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't think it was best to remove Cypriot and Slovene because they belong to this article even though the information is available on Enlargement of the eurozone.Kevin hipwell (talk) 21:32, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Well, put it back then. I'd suggest after the Malta info.--Wehwalt (talk) 21:38, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
Wehwalt I added the info you wanted on the Slovene, I also put back the info for Cypriot.
I placed this info before Malta to get chronological order.
I agree that the Malta info is a little overwhelming for the size of this article and that some of that info could be more appropriately fitted elsewhere, for example the information on the first Maltese Euro Set could be fitted in an article that contains information on all euro sets, However I have not found such articles (I hope to create the euro sets article at some point) so I think that the info is best suited for this article until a better fit is found.Kevin hipwell (talk) 22:17, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

It will do for now. I'd like to see the info on the sets eventually moved. The article really doesn't deal with the numismatic aspects of the euro transition, except where it touches on the ministate issues.--Wehwalt (talk) 22:21, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Everything is going as planned- it is going to be spun into another article eventually. Thanks for cleaning up the copy edits I made originally- it was done hastily and without alot of forethought- other than I wanted to get the information off Maltese euro coins article. Cheers. The € • T/C 02:46, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Macro

The article reads "For macro-economic theory, see below." but there's no macro section. Has it been moved somewhere else? I don't know where this macro has gone, so I don't want to fix it myself. Thanks 81.107.209.45 (talk) 02:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)