Talk:International XT
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Hey, can we maybe put in something about how a lot of people find the vary notion of such a vehicle disgusting? RossTaben 9:15 am PST 11.29.05
- Why? Note that the truck is great for rescuing beached marine mammals, hauling tree seedlings, towing the Greenpeace boats, cleaning up after illegal dumping, hauling solar panels for your home, taking stuff to be recycled, etc. Now you want one, right? AlbertCahalan 16:01, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
- Beaches animals are rarely transport long distances. Most tree seedlings are small enough that a normal truck could be used, and I suspect it would be more efficient to use several normal trucks or perhaps multiple journeys with a single truck (or preferbly, trains or boats) to transport a large number of tree seedlings then one of these. Similarly, it is rather unlikey that solar panels would be off sufficient size and weight to need one of these and if there is sufficient quantity that one could be used, several smallers trucks could easily be more efficient. The same applies to cleaning up after illegal dumping and taking stuff to be recycled. Greenpeace boats are almost definitely too big to be transport by these. The simple fact is, if there was any real need for this in the real world, the sale figures would be much higher then 1000 per year... Also, it wouldn't have DVD, satellite radio or leather since for real world uses, these luxuries are just an unnecessary waste Nil Einne 13:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Well I'm glad we have people like you to decide what is and isn't necessary for us to have. Hey, what kind of computer are you using? Some state-of-the-art Mac Duo Core? That seems pretty wasteful when all you probably do with it is bloviate socialist holier-than-thou nonsense onto the web. You could do that with a ten-year-old PC.
- I've got one foot out the door on this worthless piece of shit known as Wikipedia, so perhaps as my final act I'll delete the "Criticism" section. I don't understand why every god damn corner of life has to be overrun with people with idiotic opinions looking for a soapbox to preach to the rest of us. --Free-world 01:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- Beaches animals are rarely transport long distances. Most tree seedlings are small enough that a normal truck could be used, and I suspect it would be more efficient to use several normal trucks or perhaps multiple journeys with a single truck (or preferbly, trains or boats) to transport a large number of tree seedlings then one of these. Similarly, it is rather unlikey that solar panels would be off sufficient size and weight to need one of these and if there is sufficient quantity that one could be used, several smallers trucks could easily be more efficient. The same applies to cleaning up after illegal dumping and taking stuff to be recycled. Greenpeace boats are almost definitely too big to be transport by these. The simple fact is, if there was any real need for this in the real world, the sale figures would be much higher then 1000 per year... Also, it wouldn't have DVD, satellite radio or leather since for real world uses, these luxuries are just an unnecessary waste Nil Einne 13:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
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- what I find disgusting is not the vehicle itself but the celebrities who buy one just to say they have it. Most of them (if not all) have no practical use for a vehicle of this type. If I had one I'd find a practical use for it, as I live in snow country.--Lpimlott 04:53, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
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[edit] Commercial Extreme Truck is the name
I had a hard time finding the Commercial Extreme Truck on Wikipedia because there's no mention other than "CXT" here. There needs to be a redirect from "Commercial Extreme Truck" and what the other names (RXT, MXT) stand for (if anything) needs to be made clear. Fixed Tmaull 16:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, I answered my own question and noted that RXT stands for Recreational Extreme Truck. I still couldn't find out for sure what MXT stands for, but it looks like it might be Military Extreme Truck based on this: [1]
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[edit] Criticisms
"Shame on International for making this thing...This is a monster truck that only a Hummer could love, and it shows that without government leadership, the auto industry will lead us to more irresponsible, gas-guzzling vehicles." Isn't that what CAFE is all about? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Average_Fuel_Economy
Shame on the producer only? Ok, maybe they shouldn't have built this, but shame on the consumer for buying it as well. As long as the consumer gives the auto industry the incentive to build huge vehicles, they will. Changing topic slightly: there are only 500-1000 units of this vehicle produced annually, there are much larger battles to be fought on the environmental lines. To start, you could look to gain support for International's hybrid system for heavy-duty work trucks.
Please take note that the CXT is essentially the same truck as the DuraStar, a medium duty truck that International sells over 100,000 units a year. You know, the trucks that plow your streets, pick up your garbage and take your kids to school. Same engine, same chassis, same drive train. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ShulaCuse (talk • contribs) 22:24, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
The CXT is NOT the same as the DuraStar, which is the 4000 series medium-duty truck. The CXT is built on the 7000 series chassis; the one International uses for its dumptrucks and other severe-service trucks. I have driven the DuraStar and I can tell you it is not the same. The engine is the same but the drivetrain is not, as the 4000 is 2WD and the CXT is 4WD.--Lpimlott 05:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
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- I have a really simple solution to this preachy bullshit--I'm deleting it. This is an encyclopedia, not Mother Jones News. --Free-world 01:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
By all means. I think that every dang product review should have a section that requires input from the Sierra Club braintrust. The first thing I do when I purchase a vehicle is go to SierraClub.com to ask their permission. Maybe International will make a hybrid version? It's for the children, after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AZRickD (talk • contribs) 14:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
