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Contents 1 Author disclosure 2 References 3 Instructional design coordinator 4 Rapid Prototyping

[edit] Author disclosure

I'm an instructional designer with 15+ years experience. I've designed a lot of Computer_based_training (including five years at PLATO), and I currently work in higher education, specifically in distance learning. I have a philosphical bias against postmodernism in general and radical constructivism in particular. I believe that objective truth does exist and that it can be transmitted. That bias may have crept into the article; I tried to remain neutral. Most IDs who design learning activities for a living (as opposed to tenured professors who theorize about learning) are concerned with *measurable outcomes*, and in that context the approaches that work tend to be more behaviorist or cognitivist than constructivist. Brendano 15:18, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] References

It would be nice to have more references. Hirzel 12:50, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

The word "model" that is hyperlinked on the article tab does not lead to information about instructional design models. This needs to be corrected.

I don't agree with this part of the article: "A counterpoint to constructivism came in the late 20th century with cognitive learning theory, which provides models based on research on how the human brain processes and stores information."

As far as the discussion goes in Germany, the sequence is behaviourism (Pavlov, Watson, Skinner) - cognitivism (cognitive turn in the 60ies via the integration of cybernetic/systemic models) - constructivsism (by Maturana & Varela, Piaget, von Foerster). The sequence is moving away from the notion of an objective, normative truth, or a reality that is entirely independent from any observer (especially on the social level).

Of course there are tasks, problems and knowledge which could be tied to 'objectivity', like 'how to bind a shoelace?', 'what's the fastest and cheapest way from city A to city B?' or what's the solution to '25 + 6?'. But if you apply the idea of "There's an objective truth for every question out there", then you're on a slippery slope. Take, for example Pres. Bush: „Moral truth is the same in every culture, in every time, and in every place. [...] We are in a conflict between good and evil, and America will call evil by its name.“ Vgl. George W. Bush (2002), „Remarks by President Bush at 2002 Graduation Exercise of the United States Military Academy“. You can't argue with someone who claims he's in possession of the objective truth.

I recommend the lecture of Gödel, Luhmann or Whitehead and Russell. There are and always will be assertions in any given system that are beyond 'true' or 'false', depending on either a formal system of higher order or on belief.

[edit] Instructional design coordinator

If you are familiar with, or interested in this topic, please take a moment to review the new article Instructional design coordinator, it is still a draft and needs some cleaning up. Thanks! (Patrick 00:47, 8 October 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Rapid Prototyping

The statement made in the article

"Proponents suggest that it attempts to save time and money by catching problems while they are still easy to fix but widespread attempts to make Instructional Design a field of professional practice devoid of analytical thought have resulted in rapid protyping."

Whether accurate or not is not presented in a balanced way -- unless the author has a specific empirical study that shows that 'rapid prototyping' is devoid of analytical thought.

This is clearly an opinion with no attribution or primary source reference so it should be either rewritten or removed. 139.142.189.10 18:17, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Since posting this over two months ago and as there has been no objection or discussion raised. I am removing these biased statements. 70.74.160.191 17:02, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry for the late comment but I agree those statements were correctly removed.  :-) Alex Jackl 17:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)