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This is an outstandingly level-headed report, preserving NPOV on a tense subject. Wetman 05:50, 12 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Does Ingushetia really border Kabardino-Balkaria and Stavropol Krai? It doesn't look like it does on the maps that I have seen. Nicke Lilltroll

It indeed does not. The map I initially used was not all that clear, too. I made the corrections to the article. Thanks for pointing this out.--Ëzhiki (erinaceus europeaus) 13:50, Sep 20, 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] cruel brigands?/?

That the neighbors "know" the Ingush to be cruel brigands is not fair language. Perhaps there is a "reputation" for being strong opponents when crossed. ~ RD

"Two Tanks destroyed with one rocket propelled grenade" - seems a little far fetched am prepared to stand corrected if you can point another firm example or even explain how it could be done, but i get the point they can pretty mean. excellent article about a war hidden from view

I think you are talking about an Ingush national who fired an RPG and blew up two T-80 tanks in Grozny. Yes, it did happen he used RPG-7 launcher and attached a bundle of anti-tank grenades to the tip of the warhead. Two T-80's were in a close proximity (attached tail to tail for the battle in the city). The explosion of a first tank caused the destruction of the second.Ingushetia (talk) 17:55, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] den

"uncontrolled Ingush Informal Armed Groups (IAG) from Nazran started the aggressive[citation needed] assault upon North Ossetian territory."- this is absurdity.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 61.6.38.132 (talk • contribs) . ...which is exactly why a citation has been requested. There is no need to request citation for each word, by the way—one note is sufficient when a whole sentence is under doubt.—Ëzhiki (ërinacëus amurënsis) 20:25, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

The wikipedia is constantly being changed. Thats why you can find lots of irregularities. I will try to modify the article and bring it to the standard of the wiki.Ingushetia (talk) 17:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Military History of Ingushetia

Hello. The information about tripling the troops is taken from Yahoo News. IT IS NEWS NOT HISTORY. It is irrelevant in Military History of Ingushetia. The information already present in Modern Ingush History section.Ingushetia 06:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)Ingushetia

Where is it in the Modern history section? News items can be placed in history sections as the most recent contemporaneous events. El_C 07:03, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Read "Modern Ingush History ... Ingushes are known by the following names: Ghalghai, Gelgai..." use "find on the page" of the Internet Explorer and type in "Modern Ingush History" hit Enter. It will land you on the target. Then scroll down to "The number of terrorist attacks in Ingushetia on the rise especially after the number of Russian security forces were tippled". Interesting don't you think? Ingushetia 07:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)Ingushetia
Tripled from what? Where are the 2,500 troops mentioned? El_C 07:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
I'll look for your response on your user talk page, seeing how you're blocked. You were warned to exercise restraint about reverting. El_C 07:36, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
Yahoo news are producing lies. Russian news agencies said that two ethnic Russians and an Ossetian killed a school teacher however Yahoo News was quick to blame the "rebels" in the article. I guess that's how Commies work: kill civilians and blame their opponents. Are you a Commie El_C? Ingushetia 18:57, 9 September 2007 (UTC)Ingushetia
Ah, the truth comes out. It wasn't, as you earlier had claimed, that it was mentioned elsewhere in the article, but rather, it's Yahoo News "telling lies." You probably should stick to articles you are not as emotionally attached to. El_C 21:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Question

“ It seems that he wanted to liberate the land for Ossetians and Cossaks ”

Johanna Nichols' paper is used to reference this sentence. I haven't found such words there though. Is it a mistake or have I missed something? Alæxis¿question? 07:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

It's quite understandable. Try search button on the web browser. One example: "All Russian governments -- czars, Soviets, post-Soviet Russia -- have used various means to remove Chechen and Ingush population from economically important areas and to encourage settlement there by Russians and Russian Cossacks; hence the mixed population of the cities and lowlands." keep reading you will see more on the Berkley website. Ingushetia

Yes, I've read this. However as you can see Ossetians aren't mentioned in this passage. Alæxis¿question? 17:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)Ingushetia (talk) 17:46, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

P.S. Anyway Alexis I am going to provide sources for every mark "citation needed". Its just ridiculous that you put the marks almost after every word in the article.Ingushetia (talk) 17:47, 18 January 2008 (UTC) P.P.S. Read further "Ingush homes and lands were given to Ossetians" Don't worry I will provide more sources just like with the village of Zaur. Thanks.

Actually I've read it as well. This is obviously true but it's written about the 1944 events and has nothing to do with Yermolov. Alæxis¿question? 17:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
You are confused. Please re-read the article. Yermolov is not used there. Thanks Ingushetia (talk) 18:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
yes, I was mistaken. 'He' refers to the Czar:
“ The same year Russian Tsar offered help in deportation of Ingushes and Chechens to Turkey and the Middle East by claiming that "Muslims need to live under Muslim rulers". It seems that he wanted to liberate the land for Ossetians and Cossaks[14]. ”
The Berkeley paper tells about much later times (1944 deportation). Alæxis¿question? 18:13, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Again please re-read and put the citation mark. I will deal with it later. Thanks Ingushetia (talk) 18:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] peaceful?

What is this word supposed to mean here? Does it characterise Islam as a whole or the particular variety of it brought to Ingushetia? In the first case it should be removed as this article is not about Islam and its characteristics and in the second case it needs a reference. Alæxis¿question? 17:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

If you haven't noticed Kunta Khadzhi Kishiev didn't use the sword to bring it to Ingushes like General Ermolov tried. thats why it is peaceful. Can you actually give me one example where one person used military might against whole nation to convert them? Use logic.Ingushetia (talk) 17:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, I see now. Then I'd say it's written not clearly enough. I propose to rewrite this sentence like this: Ingushes peacefully reverted to Islam in the beginning of the 19th century with the help of a Chechen Islamic scholar Shaikh Kunta-Khadzhi (I've removed last words because the word 'Islam' already appears two times in the sentence and it's sort of obvious what kind of teaching an Islamic scholar could bring). Alæxis¿question? 18:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
Ok. Ingushetia (talk) 18:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Btw I've re-created the article about www.ingushetiya.ru that got deleted and added facts proving its notability. Alæxis¿question? 19:24, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thank you very much.Ingushetia (talk) 06:26, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Recent events

The article needs to be seriously updated. The situation in the republic is precarious and the violence of 2007 has continued into 2008. Today, the Russian police fired into the opposition protesters in Nazran.[1] --KoberTalk 12:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

I am working on it. Thanks Ingushetia (talk) 08:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)