Template talk:Infobox Rocket

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This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Template:Infobox Rocket page.
The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.
The result of the discussion was: No consensus to merge over 2 moths after merger was proposed. - BillCJ 00:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Proposed merger

It seems that Infobox Missile covers much the same content as this template. I am therefore suggesting that it is merged into Infobox rocket. All fields that are not present in this template but are present in Infobox Missile should be transferred as part of the merger process, if approved. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] In favour of proposal

  1. Nominate and support --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 13:28, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
  2. Support - much overlap jwillburtalk 15:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
  3. Support - We don't need 2 templates for one thing, there is also a weaponry template that this whould fit into. -Flubeca (t) 15:42, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Against proposal

  1. Though I think it would be possible, I don't really see the direct need. Do we need to mix up 2 templates that are used in such distinct types of topics (space vs. weapons) ? I'm all for merging templates that duplicate functionality, but only if it really serves a purpose of usefulness, and I have some doubt about the usefulness of this merge --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 17:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
    Reply: Which template should be used on Titan II? --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 19:57, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
  2. Oppose. One is a weapon, the other is not. Keep them separate as a all singing, all dancing template would be too confusing and too cumbersome to use. ThePointblank 21:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
  3. I'm a working aircraft armament technician and both "missile" and "rocket" are armament terms but the space issue aside they should still be kept distinct from each other as a missile is usually defined as being a guided weapon and a rocket is unguided. Of course as mentioned in the general comments any projectile be it powered by its own motor or simply a weapon such as an arrow or slingshot is also described as being a missile.Tarnish 15:31, 25 June 2007 (GMT)
  4. Oppose. Silly idea, since a missile and a rocket are quite different things. Rockets are not necessarily weapons, and neither are all missiles rockets; the Soyuz is not a weapon and cruise missiles (for example) use jet engines. The differences are such that it makes as much sense to use a single infobox for cars and aircraft. Lewis Collard! (baby i'm bad news) 16:49, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
  5. Oppose Not the same function.CyrilleDunant 13:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
  6. Oppose - as above. Also, hasn't this gone on long enough? Time to close. - BillCJ 05:14, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

next vote to oppose

[edit] General comments

Issues of merging aside, would it be possible to convert the infobox(es) to use {{WPMILHIST Infobox style}} as part of this process? Kirill Lokshin 16:45, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

I don't think I quite understand how that works. Could you please produce an example of how it would be implemented in this situation. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 20:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Like TheDJ said, would we use that infobox for both military and non-military articles? Technically, a bolt fired from a crossbow is a missile, but I understand both POVs. It could work if there was an infobox exclusively for use in military articles, and another inforbox exclusively for use in non-military articles. --MKnight9989 12:22, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

The purpouse of this merger would be to create a universal template for both military and civil rockets/missiles, due to an extensive overlap between the two applications. Conditional statements ({{#if:}}) would be used to ensure only relevent information is shown. I will try to make a quick example, to show some of its applications. The universal template would be used for all rocket-propelled missiles, sounding rockets and carrier rockets. Seeing as Infobox missile is not used on crossbow, I don't think your concern over the classification of crossbow bolts is relevant. --GW_SimulationsUser Page | Talk 19:54, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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