Talk:Indonesian invasion of East Timor

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[edit] Emphasis

This article devotes little exploration of the actual invasion, but rather spends most of its time discussing western and UN involvement in some depth. Should there not be more on the actual military aspets and before that the background to the invasion? --Merbabu 13:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

The figures for Indonesian casualties are way exaggerated. The real source, "Indonesian Casualties in East Timor" by Gerry van Klinken, shows only 2000 Indonesian soldiers and pro-Indonesian militiamen died in East Timor from 1975-1999 from all causes, far below the 10000 figure mentioned in the article.

The military aspects not being unimportant, it is also true that once the powers that be said "yes", the invasion became a simple pro-forma walk-in. Xyzt1234 22:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Motivation

There is no discussion of motivation. The Indonesians claimed to be suppressing communism -but what are some of the other motivations? ie. Does east Timor have natural resources or are there some religious concerns (Indonesia being primarily Muslim and East Timor being Christian).

[edit] Rename request

I'd like to rename this article "Indonesian occupation of East Timor". The UN condemned the invasion; very few governments (I know of only Australia) recognized the "annexation"; and naming it "occupation" would allow for a more comprehensive review of the 1975–1999 period of time. Thoughts? – Scartol • Tok 23:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

The article as it stands (perhaps because of the name) only discusses the early invasion period. I'd suggest starting an article on the occupation period itself - there's certainly more than enough there for an article, and I feel that the invasion needs its own article. Mostlyharmless (talk) 08:36, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. Your opinion is shared by the folks at WP MilHist, so once I get to it, I'll start with the redir page. Cheers. – Scartol • Tok 13:05, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Additional info

I removed a large section of rambling, possibly WP:OR from East Timor. Apart from POV, style and referencing issues, it's simply too long for that country summary article. Diff is [1]. Perhaps some of this info can be used - and some not - but must be scrupulously referenced due to the contentious nature of the topic. regards --Merbabu (talk) 09:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)