Talk:Indirect self-reference
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Cute. Indirect self-reference indirectly self-references itself. Should this be a real article? -- Wapcaplet
yes Vera Cruz
Perhaps some more clear explanations in regards to the "when quined" and "yields a false" examples are in order? Darquis 23:38, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Of particular interest is the quine
"yields a false statement when preceded by its quotation" yields a false statement when preceded by its quotation
which forms a paradoxical statement without using pronouns or any method of direct self-reference.
I beleive "its" is indeed a pronoun, could that sentance be worded more clearly? 170.171.1.5 21:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. "Its" is a possessive pronoun! Matt2h
whether its is a pronoun or not, it is a form of self reference. This contradicts what the section is trying to prove. I wonder we can infer the "its" the same way as the sentence infers a "this" in the beginning. So in other words change the sentence from:
[this] yields a false statement when preceded by its quotation
to
[this] yields a false statement when preceded by [its] quotation
Now the question is, do the implied pronouns not get preprocessed by our brain and added in for clarity? So is this not just a hacky self reference?
