Talk:Imperial Crown of Russia

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[edit] Deletion of last paragraphs

I have deleted the last two paragraphs of this article for the followfing reasons:

  • They were clearly a direct copy from this website: http://www.fabergetheperfectgift.com/catalog/impcrown.html
  • Both paragraphs were of little use:
    • The first repeated an earlier part of the article
    • The second was no more than an advertisement for a replica of the crown sold at the website above

Vneiomazza 8 July 2005 20:04 (UTC)

[edit] "Time in Ireland"

What is the source for the section about the crown spending time in Ireland? --Ryano 16:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

  • The "Russian Crown Jewels" were sent to Ireland as collateral for a loan. [1] As far as I can tell, this is true. I don't know if the Crown itself was specifically sent to Ireland. The Wikipedia article on the Irish Crown Jewels has more information on these transactions. OlYeller 17:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] This is probably wrong

"The crown is based upon an ancient Byzantine design - two half spheres representing the eastern and western empires of Rome, connected by a full arch in the form of a garland of oak leaves and acorns which represent the temporal power of the monarchy, surmounted by a large spinel." First, it does not match what the — rather plentiful — pictures of Imperial Roman crowns. Second, there is a very interesting digression in a charming book on the royal Hungarian regalia that includes a very complete discussion of what such crowns were — not, in short, closed crowns like this. More likely, the Russians copied the crowns of the Holy Roman Empire. The Imperial crown itself had only the one hoop, because tradition required a German king being crowned emperor (by the pope or his representative) to be given a gift of episcopal vestments; the miter was worn as the cap within the crown, in the old way, with the stiff sides on right and left. An emperor's personal crown, at later times, was fashioned with an imitation of this episcopal — priestly — add-in, as can be seen in the crown of — Ferdinand? one of those Habsburg chaps — later used as the Austrian imperial crown after the formal dissolution of the Holy Roman Empire. The Russian crown looks like a stylization of the older Holy Roman Imperial crown, flattened and rounded to look like the miter adopted latterly by Eastern Orthodox clergy. ----djenner 00:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)