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Why do any of you bother with Wikipedia?
The real wiki's out there about imageboards and specifically 4chan are the LURKMORE wiki and some of the other major joke wiki's out there. Wikipedia is massively POV by the mods/admins. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.248.135.83 (talk) 15:35, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
Overchan V.2?
Does it deserve any mention? I found out about it during the crap that happened to 4chan's /b/ on 2006-08-25.....
I think that Overchan in general deserves a note.
PokéChan
Added it to the list of other English Imageboards. Thought it deserved a mention, since this is the Pokémon Fandom's first foray into the imageboard bandwagon. At least as far as the english fandom goes.
There has been a Pokemon board on 573chan for a long time. This is not a new concept.74.141.19.131 06:37, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
- 420chan too. And btw, go back to Mt. Moon, OP, we told you pokechan sucks already. ~~
Pokemon is an anime and Japanese cultural phenomenon, which is hardly unique for an imageboard to have. --PotatoSamurai 10:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
Imageboard Wiki?
I'm wondering if this would merit it's own wiki, listing various imageboards and their respective histories and cultures. Someone could try wikicities with a good proposal. Heck, Homestar Runner has its own wiki.
So does Megatokyo. Soon there will be wiki for everything. That said, I fully support the idea.
this might be a dumb question, but i'm a wikipedia n00b: is there any way i can access the history for the old 4chan article(s)? i still don't understand why people felt it needed to be truncated and shoved into this article. --gb 16:24, Dec 30, 2004 (UTC)
Go here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=4chan&action=history (Anonymous-san)
arigatou --gb 00:13, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)
To answer your question, Gb, the $chan article was not very useful and a pain to maintain. When it is incorperated into the imageboard article, it keeps down the meme information, most of which was useless and very PoV on what 'was a meme' or 'was not a meme'. See the milhouse arguements for an example. 4chan just doesn't need an entire article to itself, most on the relavent info has been merged here anyway. hfool/Wazzup? 23:36, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I guess I just don't see the NPOVness of excluding something because it's "not popular enough" or "not very useful". If you ask me, I don't think Babylon 5 is popular or useful enough to warrant 200 pages or whatever (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Babylon_5_articles) , but you don't see me trimming them down. It might be a pain to maintain but so are any number of pages (looks like the GNAA page survived another vote for deletion), is that a good reason to get rid of an article? If the George Bush page gets vandalized a lot should it be removed? And although there are memes which are debatable, there are some which are universally agreed upon. --gb 03:52, Jan 24, 2005 (UTC)
MEMES!
| Archived list of memes with no sources --Enric Naval (talk) 05:38, 5 June 2008 (UTC) |
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Let's look at this rationally: 4chan is a very small part of the internet. The memes are often only part of the /b/ board, a part of this small part of the great big internet. So, notablity is not established, for one. Let's look at the memes one by one, shall we?
Now, can we drop the whole business already? Flame me by clicking the edit button and adding ** before your post below mine, not clearing the page. Thanks! hfool/Wazzup? 03:27, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Cockmongler - A /b/ creation. -and? /b/ is where the memes are used. thats why they are mentioned so the memes don't have to be explained to every noob. --213.33.29.168 23:02, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC) |
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- Since the audience for the 4chan section of page is almost certainly people from or interested in 4chan, shouldn't the article explain the common terms/ culture of the board? The sole reason for having the article in the first place is to explain things like this. Information on these memes is not available anywhere else, and they don't justify a mention on articles related to their origin (such as the Macross article). Regardless of where the meme originated, they are prevalent in 4chan, and are surely worthy of explanation in the article. Tadhg 17:58, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- The problem is determining which ones are worthy of inclusion. Hmm, that sounds like a jugdement of them. So, restated, the problem is that what is a meme on 4chan is open for debate. There could be dozens of memes, or even nearing a hundred that are 'memetic', depending on your point of view. So I'd be happy with a small section talking about memes, and even talking about specific memes, but a list of memes with paragraph-long meanings and notes is overkill. hfool/Roast me 23:52, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. The modern memes, such as Cracky-chan (which I notice has recently had its own article created) shouldn't be included, since they would almost certainly be forgotten within a month, replaced with a new one. So what memes should be included? Perhaps limit the list to the longest-standing three (Pedobear, Negro, Rei), similar to the iichan article? Or remove the memes altogether and focus on the "culture" of the board (no rules, flamewars common, "furry bashing" and "Furry Friday", etc), with a brief mention that there are some regular memes bracket example example example close bracket? Tadhg 00:44, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- The problem is determining which ones are worthy of inclusion. Hmm, that sounds like a jugdement of them. So, restated, the problem is that what is a meme on 4chan is open for debate. There could be dozens of memes, or even nearing a hundred that are 'memetic', depending on your point of view. So I'd be happy with a small section talking about memes, and even talking about specific memes, but a list of memes with paragraph-long meanings and notes is overkill. hfool/Roast me 23:52, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Since the audience for the 4chan section of page is almost certainly people from or interested in 4chan, shouldn't the article explain the common terms/ culture of the board? The sole reason for having the article in the first place is to explain things like this. Information on these memes is not available anywhere else, and they don't justify a mention on articles related to their origin (such as the Macross article). Regardless of where the meme originated, they are prevalent in 4chan, and are surely worthy of explanation in the article. Tadhg 17:58, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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- Agreed. To preserve NPOV, it's best to include no memes at all. Besides that, memes simply do not belong in an encyclopedia. Write a small tidbit about the community as Tadhg suggested, but do not list any memes. Really, if people would give a damn about those memes they could... well... just visit the damn site. Try again once any of those memes reach this level of importance. :: DarkLordSeth 17:48, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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- (Indent Trim). The second example is a little closer to what I had in mind. I'll add something, but since I don't actually go to the site (WAKAchan forever, baby!), it might not be totally correct. hfool/Roast me 03:00, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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- I'm happy with your changes. Good job. Tadhg 19:37, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Does iichan deserve a 'meme list' (even though they are all original creations) more than 4chan? Not only was it a smaller site, but it's dissolved into WAKAchan now. --Anonymous
I think that memes which are popular among several of the imageboards (Pedobear, happy negro) should be explained independently of any specific board, while memes that are primarily popular only on one board but are ubiquitous there should be discussed in their "home board"'s section. New "memes" need not apply—only ones that stand the test of time are really worth including (something that just showed up in the past week or so can't even really be called memes yet, just "currently popular subjects"). These things tend to die off pretty quickly: "thrust vectoring" lasted, what, a couple of months? And it was one of the more amusing ones. — Gwalla | Talk 23:34, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Most memes are really created at 4chan and get picked up at the others if they get picked up at all, and there is almost no flow in the other direction, so talking aout them under 4chan is likely the best idea. hfool/Roast me 03:25, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- No memes at all unless it reaches this level of popularity. Untill them, leave them out at all if possible. The current situation ( vague reference, no seperate heading, etc ) is fair enough for now, but highly POV. :: DarkLordSeth 03:41, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- The 3 Wakaba/Kareha characters aren't really memes anymore but semi-official mascots adopted by the software maker and wakachan board admins --24.114.252.183 04:17, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
WIKIPEDIA, 4CHAN, AND THE SWELLING TIDES OF CODSWALLOP!
This article trimming, gentlemen, fails a big one; in fact, I'm quite disgusted with it. It was the 4chan article on Wikipedia that introduced me to 4chan; heck, it introduced me both to 4chan AND to the Wikipedia. And I'm sure the same has occurred for many other regulars. Wikipedia's strength for me has always been its vast details on pop culture, an arena where other encyclopedias dare not to tread. And 4chan, as the Western offshoot of the site that IS the Japanese internet, stands out as a vastly intriguing segment of our popular culture, and a view of popular culture to come.
As further argument against this brutal and nonchalant trimming of the Wikipedia page that meant the most to me; a fine example of a Wikipedia page, no less -- I cite the recent appearance of a certain language that received FEATURED ARTICLE status on the Wiki; a language by the name of Laal. This language has 300 speakers. Those who would therefore deny a Wiki article to 4chan; an indisputably UNIQUE online community of 10,000 users or so--with a potential to touch, as a meme, many many times that number--are clearly talking out of their prudery-stiffened behinds.
- 300 speakers, and as a linguist, I can tell you, there's absolutely nothing bloody interesting about it.
I, paladin of 4chan on the Wiki, officially give this article the designation of "codswallop". 4Channers, together we shall triumph in the fight for our Wikipedian independence! (Love and Peace)
- In the words of the /b/tards STFU! for crying out loud I think that what they have here is good enough, they didn't need the overblown article, it was getting out of hand, and this is beter because you get info on other image boards and some history, it's an ecyclopedia, not the preachers of the gospel of 4chan, so get over it and calm the heck down. in it's last state it was mearly just a list of MEMEs most of which I don't consider MEMEs, if you think it was usefull in any way shape or form, take a look at this
- animated is usually a redundant confirmation that the posted .gif is actually animated, or a trolling statement if the picture is a jpeg, or in most cases a nonanimated gif.
- Ayanami Rei, a character from Neon Genesis Evangelion is sometimes treated with derision when appearing, especially in floods. Images of her were banned for a whole month in response at one point. Reasons for this vilification include the perceived over-exposure and pompousness of the series she appears in (along with its fans) and the fan intepretation of her character as a taciturn, submissive, masturbatory otaku fantasy girl. Related memes are "ZOMG ITS REI!" at pictures of any blue-haired characters; also, "FAP FAP FAP" to imply masturbation.
- Bad Teeth Man An image of a smiling, dishevelled-looking man(Shane McGowan, Lead singer of The Pogues a Traditional Irish Band) with rotten, crooked teeth and bulging eyes. His image is often posted with humorous comments such as "I'd hit it!" and "I'd buy that for a dollar!" in order to emphasise a point of discussion.
- "Cock Mongler" was named from a picture of a smiling redheaded man from the website for "The World's Largest Dinosaur" in Drumheller, Alberta. The words "I'LL SUCK YOUR COCK!" was added to an edited version of the photo.
- Covercat came from a pornographic photograph where the participants were partially obscured by a out-of-focus orange cat sticking its head into frame. The cat has subsequently been photoshopped into (or rather, over) a variety of images.
- "Eyebrows," or "Amarao-Brows," is a reference to the anime series FLCL. The character Amarao's most notable feature are his enormous, rectangular eyebrows that appear to be made out of dried seaweed (nori). This meme came about during the initial Happy Negro wave, when HN was edited into an FLCL screencapture and given his own set of Amarao-Brows.
- A gaijin yonkoma is a 4-panel comic with many variations. The two pictures used in every incarnation of the Gaijin Yonkoma series show four IGN staff at E³. One picture shows them sitting in chairs, with little emotion; the other has them cheering wildly, apparently in response to news of a new Legend of Zelda video game. These have also been used as models for anime characters drawn in the same poses, most notably the characters Akane, Mitsuki and Haruka from Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien.
- "Happy Negro" is the nickname given to Santino Lee, a black porn actor featured in a series of photos from the adult website BangBus.Com. In one picture, he is shown fondling the breasts of another woman with an exaggerated expression of excitement on his face. It is this picture from which the nickname, and Lee's most common image, originates.
- "Harbl" or "...touch my harbl" is one of the deepest memes in 4chan. Following the path of the true inside joke, if you have to ask what it means you will never know.
- "I'd hit it" The oldest and most famous phrase on the boards. "I would fuck it." A derisive variant is to specify WHICH weapon the poster would hit it with.
- "is this loli" Originally from /c/ controversy about whether posted images are too sexual to belong there. (The rules at the time permitted "mild nudity") Often the term is used to troll other posts.
- Kill it with fire. The "kill it" is from an unknown source. "With fire," comes from a Xenosaga doujin-strip of three panels where Kos-mos has her look change into a "magical girl" costume and her response is "My physical appearance is down 80%. Shion. I need to be cleaned. With fire." It's equivalent to "sage," but a sage of something ugly.
- lol internet was the 100,000th post on /b/, by Anonymous, in an earlier incarnation of 4chan. It's famous because another poster who was trying to get the 100,000th post claimed he'd decided to commit suicide because of his failure.
- A master is out. Commonly invoked alongside the picture of a person (loli) or pet animal peeking out around a corner or a door that has been opened just a creak. The cause for this meme was a picture posted by a user from japan showing a dog looking around the corner. The sentence suposed to suggest that the dogs owner("a master") was out of the house("is out"), and he(the Dog) is waiting for him to return.
- Milhouse is a Matt Groening character from The multi-seasonal Simpsons cartoon. Milhouse was a successfully "forced meme", indirectly also spawning the recursive meme "Milhouse [is not a meme]" with the words in brackets being repeated once or as many times as necessary.
- "Moot", the owner of 4chan, was turned into a meme after he posted a picture from someone's vacation in Mexico of a man playfully sticking his head into a ruin. The man's face is photoshopped often onto other pictures in the same manner as Happy Negro and Cock Mongler.
- Multitrack Drifting is a reference to a particularly rediculous chapter of "Dorega no D", a spoof of the popular manga "Initial D", a Japanese comic about downhill drift-style auto racing. In this spoof, the main character is shown "drifting" a passenger train. "Multitrack Drifting" is often combined with "One Does Not Simply [x] Into Mordor" and/or Ronald McDonald.
- "One does not simply ... into Mordor." This famous quote from the Movie Lord of the Rings: Fellowship of the Ring was abused as the subject of a SomethingAwful Photoshop Phriday subject and became a running joke when it migrated to 4chan. Various situations with the character Boromir's head photoshopped into them have been created around the subject; for example, a Star Trek transporter scene is "One does not simply teleport into Mordor." Mordor was eventually word-filtered into "a huge vagina the size of a hallway."
- "Needs more [...]" A request for a photoshop. Sometimes just a trolling statement, as in "Needs more loli." For particularly disturbing images, "Needs more covercat" is the standard.
- "Nevada-tan" is the nickname of a 11-year-old Japanese schoolgirl who murdered another student in the classroom with a box cutter because she constantly mocked and taunted her. Her real name was never discovered, but in her class photo she was wearing a hooded sweatshirt with the words "Nevada". Drawings of Nevada commiting the murder and other various guro-related activities appear often on 4chan.
- "Osakaphone" was a short-lived fad before the fourth death of 4chan where it was common to post an ASCII image of Osaka from Azumanga Daioh holding a phone to her ear and saying various things. It was often accompanied with the ASCII Pedo Bear. Related is a flash video, somewhat commonly uploaded to /f/, where a sped-up verson of the song "Bananaphone" by Raffi accompanies the same ASCII rendition of Osaka, with a Gundam in a banana costume in the place of the original phone.
- Pedo Bear is an ASCII art bear copied over from the 2ch character Kuma (Bear). On 2ch, Kuma represents wilderness and nature, often exclaiming his dislike for work. In his free time, he fights Ronald McDonald and chases cute girls. On 4chan, however, he was "transformed" into a pedo during a /b/ AA flood. Other ASCII animals have been imported and assigned fetishes.
- Queen of Punk Generally used to refer to the frequently flooded images of Canadian punk rocker Avril Lavigne - postergirl for the angry, disenfranchized youth of modern suburbia. Avril seems loved and hated in equal measure on 4chan and often serves as a catalyst for huge flame wars.
- sauce plz Humourous mispelling of the word "source", as in asking "What is the source of this image?" As an attention-grabbing pun, the request for "sauce" is sometimes accompanied by a picture of ketchup. It was also the cause of a wordfilter that automatically changed "source" into "sauce".
- "Spicy hot loligasms" has come to be associated with the two main characters from Futari wa Pretty Cure. The origins of the phrase are certain Habanero-tan comics and the notorious poster Buki Buki, also known as Buki^2, who was known for making suggestive exclamations such as "Hot!" while posting pictures of young girls in /c/ (the cute board). He was once represented as a blue penguin in a edited image, and the association stuck.
- "SPIKE DIES" (all caps) was a troll message refering to the death of Spike from Cowboy Bebop. It was considered an unannounced spoiler, although some posters argued that what actually counts as a spoiler for such a popular anime is subjective. Variations include replacing the name with a more current one (rude) or a very old or well known one (tongue-in-cheek).
- "Thrust vectoring owns the sky! This thing can turn on a dime, Macross Zero-style!" is a phrase in reference to the OVA series Macross Zero, which features aircraft able to change direction in an incredibly small amount of space. It was first posted as a comment on a picture of a F/A-22 Raptor, and then later placed next to pictures of other aircraft or vehicles, but was also seen on marques.
- "The Undernet (or other names like Ubernet or Underweb) is REAL! I found this... I think it is a hit to a way to find a way in..." Current running joke making fun of Lord Nat for his discovery of the map of the way into the Undernet.
- Waha is a meme adopted from Futaba channel.
- Yotsuba, (literally, "Four Leaves") besides being the name of the site, is also the name of a manga character and its eponymous manga, named "Yotsubato!" ("Yotubato!"); Yotsuba, an energetic if dim little girl with four green pigtails, is sometimes joked to be the site's spokeswoman.
- y halo thar is a meme that needs a better definition which includes the addition of "buttsecks? lolol"
- Yaranaika Taken from a manga/doujinshi page involving homosexual themes, this meme is associated with both words and the faces from the said manga/doujinshi. Translated, the phase implies a sexual pick-up line. One of the oldest 2chan memes, adopted by 4chan.
- You forgot Poland was extracted from the political debates of the Bush/Kerry 2004 election. No one quite gets this one either. However, this meme also started one of the most annoying "failed memes" in current history.
- ZOMG TORRENT PLZ is a request for files or images to be offered on BitTorrent. It's a jab at the demands of the internet user for instant gratification.
- ZOMG NONE!!!1 is an exclamation derived from the rules section of 4chan, which state that there are no rules that govern the /b/ board. Often spammed by a user via proxy immediately after receiving a siteban or IRC ban.
- ZOMG is an exclamation combining the two internet shorthand corruptions "ROFLZ" and "OMGZ".
- WRYYYYYYYY - <-- please someone tell me what does this mean!!! ;_;
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- It's something the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure character Dio shouts. It means nothing; it's just a scream. Popularized on 4chan by a flash animation that used stick figures to demonstrate the super moves used by a few characters in the JJBA fighting game. — Gwalla | Talk 22:47, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- AAIIIIRRR! - fair enough, now tell me what does aaaiirr mean? whats up with the messed up eyes?
- A reference to a scene in the movie Total Recall, wherein Arnold Schwarzenegger's character is writhing around on the ground fighting for air while his eyes pop out.
- zOMG is a typo, not a contraction/mashup - the shift key is next to the z key. originated outside of 4chan.
- ZOMG has also been wordfiltered to 'zoomj'.
i got 4chan booted off godaddy.com :lol:
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- tl;dr—Anonymous
external links
[1] contains all the same stuff as [2], right? So why link BOTH? and [3] is a german board, go start an article about imageboards on de:! humblefool® 01:02, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
No, [4] is all the boards, [5] is a portal to only the worksafe sections, more or less considered to be seperate.
5 Chan
I've edited the 5chan section slightly to indicate the prescence of a holding page that suggests the sites return. Please advise if it is of any use.
UPDATE: The holding page is no longer there. I guess the project fell through. 2nd UPDATE: The domain doesn't seem to work now. I've deleted the reference from the article.
Header image
I'm thinking an image that showed the an example imageboard section and its format (i.e. /a/), rather then just the title pages of some popular ones, would contribute more to the article. -Seventh Holy Scripture
I've been thinking
Perhaps it's time to spin the 4chan article back off from imageboard. I mean, if Casey and Andy can have an article, so can a site many times larger than it! humblefool® 1 July 2005 05:33 (UTC)
iichan and wtfux
Should the merger of wtfux and iichan be mentioned?
- Mention should be made only after the merger is final. It's still being discussed on the iichan boards. Thatdog 05:32, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
- Updated - anon

