Talk:Ian Hunter (singer)

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Most of this article reads like it was written by his record company's publicity department. I thought so even before I got to the sentence, "Ian Hunter is now in his fifth decade of serving up great Rock 'n' Roll." Yech. Although, a publicity piece probably would not have the sloppiness near the beginning, about what the man's name is, or was. We know from the first line that his real name is "Ian Hunter Patterson" (which I did not know before), but then we have him doing things as "Ian Patterson" and suddenly then as "Ian Hunter" without any explanation of when he started performing as "Ian Hunter." Sometimes when a person has changed or shortened his/her name, an article will make initial reference to the person's real full name and from then on to the person's stage name, for "literary effect," but it is not clear that that is what is happening here. The implication is that he performed for a time with his real last name but later dropped it, but the reader is left in confusion as to when that happened, if it ever did. Now I want to go look at the "Johnny Cougar" (aka, aka, etc.) article, as a known example of someone whose "stage name" did change several times, to see how it handles that issue. Better than this, I hope. Zeutron 14:27, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Recording "Dudes" is the key event that led Hunter and Mott to stardom, as opposed to looming obscurity. Stylistically, the breakup of the band in 1972 should end a paragraph. And Ian's words from the "Just Another Night" DVD (2004) interview serve as the perfect explanation of how "Dudes" happened. Young fans today find it hard to understand why Bowie would give such an obvious classic song to another artist.

And respectfully to Zeutron, most show biz people have stage names that evolve over a period of time. Rarely is this of interest or consequence.

RedManPlus 22:40, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

This article seems to retain its individualistic, non-encyclopedic, POV styling and content, despite all that was written above (around twelve months ago). Can someone please re-visit the wording, lack of any source or reference, and improve its present, amateurish standing. Thank you,

Derek R Bullamore 18:55, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

OK. You have a few points. As of mid-November 2006, it's basically crap. I did not write this (but I did his 'Diary' page) and will to put some time into this one. Give it a month. Since Ian's song-writing tends to be autobiographical, I may employ the stylistic technique of using Ian's own words from specific interviews and song lyrics to help paint a picture of his life. If you re-visit this page occasionally, please point out one or two specific sentences or paragraphs you feel are "in dispute" or stylistically sub-par. Regards.

RedManPlus 01:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ian Hunter photo & birthdate

I uploaded a 2004 photo of Ian Hunter to Wikimedia Commons, file name IanHunter.JPG. It is my own original photo, which I release to public domain.

This is my first attempt at contributing to Wikipedia. If someone would like to add the photo to the Ian Hunter article, that's great.

I'm not sure if the photo quality is adequate.

The second edition of the GUINNESS ENCYCLOPEDIA OF POPULAR MUSIC (Volume 3), edited by Colin Larkin, reports that Ian Hunter was born 3 June 1946. I met Ian Hunter briefly in 2001 and I think the 1946 birthdate is probably correct. He is certainly not approaching 70, as you can probably tell by the uploaded photo.

I'm sorry I can't "do" more to contribute at this time, but hopefully as I learn more about contributing I'll do better. Thanks.

Miluba 01:14, 30 March 2007 (UTC)miluba

The photo isnt there, SqueakBox 02:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

I know his date of birth is open to question - but 3 June 1939 is quoted in the Guinness Rockopedia - ISBN 0-85112-072-5. If nothing else, it countermands the (Guinness) quote above. Perhaps the main article should allude to the confusion over this matter - although, as I commented back in November last year (above), the whole article still leaves much to be desired.

Derek R Bullamore 08:52, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, you're right about the photo. I'm not sure what I did wrong. I can locate it here http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:IanHunter.JPG but it doesn't show up in a simple search on Wikimedia Commons. I'll try to learn more before I make another upload attempt. Thanks. Miluba 11:22, 30 March 2007 (UTC)Miluba

It seems to work fine now. I've added it to the infobox to replace the previous image, which was apparently deleted. --GentlemanGhost 08:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Mods to Summary and Early Years

I made some mods: added recent promo photo, added musician info box, cleaned up the summary, cleaned up the first half of the Early Years section, added proper citation to Devine's biography.

Sorry, but the Morton Fraser references were excessive. That's a minor detail almost not worth mentioning in a bio as long as Hunter's - so it's definitely not worth two paragraphs of background. Than belongs in a Morton Fraser Gang wiki page, not Hunter's.

Ditto the obsession with Hunter's age and name. His authorised biography gives his correct birthdate, so there's no reason to cite conflicting sources when you can cite a correct one. And he was still "Patterson" in CBS press releases in 1968, so there's no need to dwell on it for two paragraphs in the first paragraph of his bio.

ALSO: the huge list of magazine articles at the bottom are not sources, they are just copied from a fan website. Add an external link to fan website, but listing all those as "sources" just adds quantity, not quality.

LuckyLoser 05:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

How can there be a CBS press release from 1968 when Mott The Hoople didn't sing to CBS until 1972? Before that they were signed to Island and licensed in the US to Atlantic.

snyder —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.78.141.130 (talk) 13:15, August 22, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed magazine article list

with the books cited, the list of magazine articles is overkill.

MarkinBoston 18:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

but if you prefer magazines to books i guess you are SOL now then —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 19:39, 11 January 2008 (UTC)