Talk:I Believe in Father Christmas

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[edit] Scenes of Vietnam War

having not seen the video, i cannot be sure, but i'm hesitant to believe that scenes of the Vietnam War would involve an Apache helicopter. Chronoso 12:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe not an actual apache, my military aircraft knowledge has some gaps in it but there's definately an attack helicopter loosing dozens of missiles at a target. It might be worth findind a picture to see what helicopter it really is, what was the one from Airwolf?Simondrake 10:22, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

Misinterpreted as anti-religious? Surely it is precisely that. The song is about the loss of innocence, including "They sold me a dream of Christmas. They sold me a silent night. And they told me a fairy story till I believed in the Israelite". Surely that last part quite clearly implies that "the Israelite" is itself a "fairy story". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.187.40.226 (talk) 01:27, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

The composer has complained about Christmas becoming centred entirely around shopping, and prefers to use the term Christmas instead of Holiday Season, which wouldn't make sense if he was anti-religious. Of course it's possible that what he wrote back then doesn't reflect his views now. Looking at the complete lyrics, the main thing this song is about is a child disappointed when they realise the brutality of the real world. That would explain why the song's video includes footage of wars. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.146.46.247 (talk) 00:04, 25 December 2007 (UTC)