Talk:Hurt (Nine Inch Nails song)
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This article was nominated for deletion on 16 October 2005. The result of the discussion was keep. |
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[edit] Meaning?
- I visited this wiki page hoping to find some interpretation of the songs lyrics but found none. Should.t a wiki page about a song also explain the author's or some other people view on the song meaning ?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.113.238.169 (talk) 21:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- I Came to see wheter or not the original track was suppose to sound mest up —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.171.28.160 (talk) 22:28, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Covers
- I removed some questionable performances from the covers section. David Bowie has never sung or recorded his own version of "Hurt," he only performed it live as a duet with Nine Inch Nails (source: Illustrated DB Discography) and this performance is already mentioned in the article. Tori Amos' covers of "Hurt" appear to be relegated to using the first line only in live improvisations (source: HEREINMYHEAD.com lyrics page). -- Rynne 16:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Well, I originally had a link to coversproject so that users could evaluate these claims for themselves, but that link too got reverted in the original rewrite -- without explanation. Jacqui ★ 16:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
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- Sorry, I apologise for not providing an explanation. I was a bit confused about the wording as it was written. Since "Hurt" is one of NIN's most well-known songs, I wasn't sure how to evaluate the wording of the stub that allluding that the song might be "most notable for being covered by many artists." It seemed that—aside from Cash's version—those covers were notable for being covers of NIN and not vice versa. For examples, the Razor Skyline cover is on a NIN tribute record, and the Tori Amos improvs seem important in context of her relationship with the songwriter (i.e., Reznor) instead of with the song. As such, the presence of those covers didn't seem to assert the notability of the song itself, so I left them out when expanding the stub. -- Rynne 04:33, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] ATLITW lyrics
There's no need to put away in brackets in "All the Love in the World"'s I've become a million miles away. It's a bit difficult to hear, but the official lyrics as given on http://www.nin.com/with_teeth (registration required) show that the away is part of the song. -- Rynne 14:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Promo v Single
Hurt was only a promo. The picture that is used in the article has the words "for promotional use only" at the top. Yes, it was labelled "Halo 10", so was the promo for Piggy. But neither were officially released as commercial singles, so saying that it is a single in the article is wrong.
- …Which is exactly why the format is listed as "promotional CD" - Rynne 17:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Description of song
The current description of the song is highly speculative, and likely violates Wikipedia's original research policy. Unless Reznor has personally stated what the interpretation of the song is, we can't speculate what his intention was. On the other hand, we can report what verifiable mainstream critics thought of the song; but Wikipedia itself should not be in the business of literary criticism. Let the song speak for itself. -- The Anome 23:18, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
I've now taken out the description of the song. Please feel free to build it up again, but this time, please quote and reference verifiable sources about their interpretations of the song, rather than adding your own, unsourced, opinions about what it means. -- The Anome 23:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Song meaning
Especially with Cash's verison the song seems to be a christian song, is the song about this about christianity. Johnny Cash's video seens to point towards that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leftarmchinaman (talk • contribs) 21:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC).
- The Downward Spiral definitely has a theme on Christianity, especially in the track "Heresy". –Pomte 03:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] link to the fire
the cnn article is amiss. i've changed to the bbc news story. i'm saying this here, to not be confused with vandalism. PedroCarvalho 19:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Cash hurt.jpg
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BetacommandBot 05:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:NIN Hurt.jpg
Image:NIN Hurt.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
