Talk:Hurricane Bertha (1996)

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[edit] Merge

Skin and bones article, this one has no future. Merge it with 1996AHS. There is no info here that couldn't be easily explained in the main article. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 22:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

I gotta disagree with this one too, although my disagreement is PoV since where I live the storm was pretty notable. I'll agree that it needs more info. Jdorje 09:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

See for instance [1]. Jdorje 09:21, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I expanded the impact section so it's balanced. I'm now fully in favor of keeping the article. Jdorje 10:02, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Unless anyone still objects I will remove the merge template. Jdorje 16:30, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Go for it. This article should stay. Hurricanehink 16:41, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Major hurricane

From the tcr:

Bertha was the first major hurricane to make landfall in North Carolina in 40 years.

Now I'm not entirely sure what this means but I'm positive it's not true.

• Bertha obviously wasn't a major hurricane at landfall, but it was a major hurricane and it did make landfall in NC. The NHC often seems to call a hurricane major if it was Cat3 at any point during its lifetime (which is logical when you consider these storms often still pack quite a punch even after they weaken; e.g., Hurricane Isabel), so the sentence "major hurricane to make landfall" is correct.
• However it wasn't the first such in 40 years; see Hurricane Diana (1984) for instance.

Jdorje 16:59, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Where does it say that? The Tropical cyclone report from the NHC website? Hurricanehink 17:08, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

Oops, it's not from the TCR, it's from [2]. "First major hurricane in 40 years to directly hit North Carolina." Jdorje 17:23, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

OK. I don't think they're right. It wasn't a major, and you are correct about Diana. I don't know what they are talking about. Hurricanehink 17:25, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

I think it was a major. When they say a major hurricane hits, they don't necessarily mean it was major when it hit. It's not the same thing as saying you were hit by a category 3 hurricane. A major hurricane is one that was category 3 or higher at any point in its lifetime. You can see this in Part 2, #12, at [3], although they leave out Bertha there. Jdorje 17:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Todo

For a non-retired hurricane I think this ariticle is "good enough"; i.e., B-class. Things to add would be impact pictures, inline sources, and more impact (the current impact section comes straight from the TCR, but more detail would be possible from news sources I imagine). Jdorje 21:32, 15 January 2006 (UTC)