Talk:Hurricane Allen

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[edit] Order

The article says Allen "brushed Jamaica" and "struck Haiti". But aren't these two events out of order?

So fix it already. Jdorje 01:25, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
I will fix it. :) : Irfanfaiz at (GMT 8+) 12.44PM

[edit] The track image

I found that track image on another website which is a public one. I don't remember what page did i get it from but the image is in a public domain. So i got to reupload it in what liesence (sorry for the spelling) :P : Irfanfaiz at (GMT 8+) 12.42PM

[edit] ACE

What's this storm's ACE? I bet it's pretty high. -- Hurricane Eric - my dropsonde - archive 15:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Not sure exactly, but I would assume it is at least in the 45-55 range...probably around where Isabel is. CrazyC83 05:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Annular hurricane?

Was Allen an annular hurricane? Is that why it kept its intensity for so long? CrazyC83 05:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Unlikely. And remember it did weaken quickly at the end. Jdorje 21:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Todo

More specific intro, better structure in the impact. Jdorje 21:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

The intro's fine, needs more sources. -- §HurricaneERIC§Damagesarchive 04:17, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
The intro doesn't give any mention of where the storm hit. And the article says that 250 people died, but it doesn't say where (except for a few deaths in Texas and Louisiana). We can't even expand the intro until more research is done. — jdorje (talk) 04:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)


[edit] "Earliest-forming Category 5..."

I've removed this section since we now know Allen has lost his crown to Emily. But is it still worth mentioning that Allen held the record until 2005? Pobbie Rarr 17:02, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

It can be worth mentioning. All it needs is one sentence in the storm history section (it doesn't need its own section). — jdorje (talk) 20:31, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dominican Republic

Was there any impact by Allen in this country? I can't seem to find anything. If not, the impact section should specifically mention Haiti, not Hispaniola. Pobbie Rarr 18:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Death toll

Okay a bit of a problem here. I make it as follows:

220 (Haiti) + 18 (St. Lucia) + 17 (Louisiana) + 8 (Jamaica) + 7 (Texas) + 3 (Cuba) + 1 (Guadeloupe) = 274

Yet nowhere reports a total this high. What are the best figures to use? Pobbie Rarr 19:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

Okay, it seems that the 236-261 figure as quoted by the NHC is for direct deaths only. Then the 274 figure must include both direct & indirect deaths. How many indirect deaths does that make? Pobbie Rarr 19:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I've uploaded a new image for the info box, as it shows Allen at peak intensity. Consequently, the IR landfall image has been moved to the appropriate part of the Storm History section.

If there's a problem with this, let me know. :) Pobbie Rarr 02:57, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Since NOAA has added a fair amount of old data to the GIBBS project, I've found a full-hemisphere shot of this storm at 1800Z on August 7, the time that it was at 190 mph and 899 mb. (Click on that image for a full version of the file.) The storm itself is rather small; it isn't a high-res satellite like some of the modern ones. But since there is a dearth of images of older hurricanes at peak intensity, I thought there might be some use for this. I can crop the image to show only the hurricane, only the Caribbean, or whatever is needed. PolitiCalypso 21:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)