Talk:Hummer H3
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Many parts of this read like a sales pitch. Can someone working on this page please fix that?
[edit] Gilliland
The H3 started as a suggestion by a Carnegie Mellon University student H. Elwood Gilliland III, who said "make it smaller" -- Herbert was sick of the "Herbie" references (from the Disney movie) and wanted to help GM develop a new product after working in the GM Lab. His comments started at the Michigan office, where the Interaction Design team is housed. Mr. Gilliland is a pioneer of the field of Interaction Design, being the first scientific Interaction Designer (most Interaction Designers get B.A.s). His work can be viewed at http://www.andrew.cmu.edu/~heg -- his work also includes significant contributions to Sustainable Architecture and Environmental Activism. -—Preceding unsigned comment added by Doctor Octagon (talk • contribs)
- Mr. Gilliland's resumes seems to change on a daily basis. He transforms from being a student to being an alum. From interviewing at GM's Michigan office to actually working there. Google's cached version of the resume is a bit different. Googling Herbert Elwood Gilliland III turns up Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Young_Zaphod. Kristan 02:59, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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- He is an Alumnus, a scientist and an Interaction Design pioneer. If you want to reword the article, by all means User:Kmarkey -- call Carnegie Mellon for verification. Also, if you read Category:Suspected_Wikipedia_sockpuppets_of_Young_Zaphod it mentions "Herb Gilliland" because of an article involving Mr. Gilliland. Doctor Octagon 14:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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- It doesn't matter who he is if we have no reliable source saying that what you described actually happened. Which we don't. Nandesuka 15:20, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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- The sock puppet page mentions "Herb Gilliland" because you've put your name into multiple different articles without any sources to back up your involvement with anything, and because of your pattern of doing so with a constant array of new identities that all seem to edit things with the same pattern and edit the same types of articles. --Atari2600tim (talk • contribs) 19:22, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Or so you think. You have no proof and there is no way to dispute it. How do we know you're not a sockpuppet? Doctor Octagon 22:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merger proposal
I placed a merge tag on this and the Hummer H3t articles, proposing that the latter be merged into this article. The H3t article is so short there seems little reason for it to exist on its own. It could very easily be fit into a subcategory here. Any thoughts? ---Charles 21:24, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
- I strongly support the merge. HummerGuy (talk · contribs) has been going through adding promotional links, evidently to drive traffic to a Dallas rental company. I'm reverting some of it, and anything that's not obvious spam, I agree should just be merged. --Elonka 20:48, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Merge it. --24.248.84.139 00:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
--Subunix 16:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)I say merge it, but the H3T you want to merge is a prototype, and the H3 is a current production vehicle
Leeharvey418 14:44, 18 January 2007 (UTC) There have been spy photographs captured of an upcoming production vehicle that is a pickup based on the GMT345/355 architecture, and that will actually be the production H3T. I think that the bigger question is whether we want to ultimately include this vehicle in the H3 article, in which case the H3T concept article should be merged into the existing H3 article. If we think that the production H3T deserves its own article, then that should be allowed to grow from the existing H3T article.
[edit] Grossly Underpowered (opinion)
Has anyone driven one of these? I recently test drove one. I forgot about the inline 5 when I arrived on the lot (and the salesman refreshed my memory.) I drove it around and I was amazed at how it struggled on hills and when floored. I can't believe people let the Hummer mystique sucker them into spending 33-45 grand on one of these things. It's basically a 5 cylinder square shaped S-10 with a little more off road potential. Unless you HAVE to have a Hummer, I reccomend buying a Blazer with twice the power and keeping a couple grand in your pocket. Not as glamourous I suppose, but if you can't even afford the H2 you probably shouldn't be thinking about fashion in the first place.
(Answer) Starting off - my wife's H3 didn't cost 45k. If you spent that much on an H3, you're a moron. Out the door the truck we bought (very nicely equipped, by the way) was 29k before trade in, and that was custom ordered from Hummer via a dealer.
Secondly - the inline 5 is programmed for torque. Inline engines are naturally torquey anyways, so torque plus full time 4wd = good off road capability. Combine that with lockers (stock if you order it that way) and you've got a good working truck off road.
I basically dare you to take an S10 off onto a trail that the H3 can do. In Arizona, H3's have tackled 4.0 out of 5 rated trails with zero issues. Try that with your stock S10/Colorado when you're trying to navigate nearly 2 foot high rock gardens.
Underpowered is totally a fallacy, depending on what type of driving you do.
--Beastmaster 04:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
While the vehicle may be underpowered, I think that the wording is quite subjective. Perhaps it would be better to compare the power to weight ratio of the H2 and the H3, or accelleration figures.
Rhys Lewis (talk) 03:27, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
