Talk:Humboldt Current

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[edit] From NOAA

This entry appears to be possibly plagarized. The exact same phrasing appears on a NOAA site, http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/lme/text/lme13.htm. Unless the authors of both pieces are one and the same or the NOAA piece is in the public domain (unlikely), there should at the very least be some attribution on the Wikipedia entry.

65.207.39.189 17:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

The user who copied the text did not mention the source(diff). Looks like the parent document is http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/lme/project.htm You could have checked if the text is in the public domain: http://na.nefsc.noaa.gov/ where the "About us" page includes http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/copyrightpolicy.htm (SEWilco 05:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC))

I removed the following from the article:

The Humboldt Current LME is considered a Class I, highly productive (>300 gC/m2-yr), ecosystem. It is the most productive marine ecosystem in the world, as well as the largest upwelling system. The cold, nutrient-rich water brought to the surface by upwelling drives the system’s extraordinary productivity. The Humboldt’s high rates of primary and secondary productivity support the world’s largest fisheries. Upwelling occurs off Peru year-round but off Chile only during the spring and summer, because of the displacement of the subtropical center of high pressure during the summer.

Approximately 18-20% of the world’s fish catch comes from the Humboldt Current LME. The species are mostly pelagic: sardines, anchovies and jack mackerel. The LME’s high productivity supports other important fishery resources as well as marine mammals. Periodically, the upwelling that drives the system’s productivity is disrupted by the El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) event. When this occurs, fish abundance and distribution are significantly affected, often leading to stock crashes and cascading social and economic impacts. These events have led to sequential changes, where sardines and anchovies have replaced each other periodically as the dominant species in the ecosystem. These species changes can have negative consequences for the fishing industry and the economies of the countries that fish the system.

Providing a source is not sufficient in this case when every single sentence was copied word for word from the website. This material needs to be reworded substantially before being readded. Ufwuct 22:10, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Text restored. Public domain text may be used without modification (or with modification). (SEWilco 02:38, 31 January 2007 (UTC))

We need confirmation and verification of PUBLIC DOMAIN here. Additionally, it should still be listed as a quote. Somehow bracekted to indicate taken as is form source. Dachande (talk) 18:03, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

The text is being reused as text, not as a statement of what someone at NOAA states, so quotation is not needed. Whether the text was copied from the NOAA site or another site doesn't matter much, but it can be recopied from the NOAA site if you want to ensure the bits all originated from there. Otherwise, just edit whatever needs to be improved in it. -- SEWilco (talk) 18:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] nutrients

Can someone tell me where the nutrients come from? I always hear the Humbolt current described as a nutrient-rich upwelling. So presumably the water is coming from somewhere deeper in the ocean...where are the nutrients coming from down there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.196.193.91 (talk) 00:06, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

Tropical waters do not have many nutrients. This current comes from the South Pole and the poles contain the most nutrient rich waters. How do you edit this? the article is just hard to read obv (talk) 23:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)