Talk:Human branding

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I removed the word cauterized from the main title as although it is historicially correct to brand and to cauterize are now seen as two different things. For example to brand could be seen as a negative, to cauterise as a positive life saving event. --Edmund Patrick 14:31, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Flogging is not a minor punishment

It may be best to remove the following sentence from the Human branding page's "As punishment" section. "Like other judicial mutilations, it was sooner abandoned to flogging and similar corporal punishments which at worst only cause stripe scars on the sorely punished backside."

Many people have been flogged to death, a barbaric way to kill someone, and a way for authorities to execute a death sentence where none was given, nor merited.

Also, "sooner" doesn't have enough meaning in this context. It is confusing here.

If it's important to point out that there was an evolution where one or more corporal punishments were used exactly where branding was previously used, then I would reword the sentence. Even mild or moderate floggings can have serious medical and psychiatric consequences.

I do appreciate this section's sensitivity to the impact of the pain and humiliation aspects of branding.

Wayne of Micanopy 00:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

  • I've rewritten the phrase, as the 'sooner' turning never worked for me either, hopefuly addresing some of your concerns. I do however stress the term 'judicial mutilation' clearly excludes arbitrary punishments as well as deliberate excecution Arcarius 11:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] flogging

I agree re-wording the paragraph is a necessity. The information that needs to get across is 1) flogging did replace branding 2) that does not mean that it was in anyway a 'lesser' punishment 3)people then may have looked upon it as a lesser punishment but it was also 4) as a arbitrary punishment as branding. It will be some time before I can do anything on this page so please do edit. --Edmund Patrick 08:56, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nominally Minorized.

What does the phrase "nominally minorized" mean in the Persisting Practices section? "Nominal" means "existing in name only," and "minorize" isn't even a word. Assuming the person who added it (two years ago) meant "minimize" it would mean "to reduce to the smallest possible amount." So the phrase would seem to mean "reduced to the smallest possible amount in name only." Does this mean it has been reduced or that it hasn't been reduced? If it hasn't been reduced why say anything at all? If it has been reduced why not just say "now rare?" Also, if it's a modifying phrase why is it in parenthesis? Why not just say "the nominally minorized tradition" as opposed to "the (nominally minorized) tradition?" 192.82.6.21 01:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Is this necessary?

The article is identical to human branding save for the short line "redirected from...". Someone look into this, it's causing my anatomy class a good bit of pain. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morphoray (talk • contribs) 14:47, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

  • Could you put a link to the article that is identical to human branding, this is the talk page for human branding. Thanks Edmund Patrick ( confer work) 20:23, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
Indeed. "Redirected from" means that what Morphoray typed is NOT a content page, it just served to point you to this page, which obviously must be identical to itself. Arcarius 06:43, 18 October 2007 (UTC)