Talk:House of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg

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Should we set up a category called House of c, or perhaps just House of Glücksburg (which is how the Norwegian royal family describes it), so that we can assign the relevant family members to this house? Alternately, should they all be assigned to a House of Oldeburg category? --Leifern 16:41, 2005 Mar 25 (UTC)

Hmm...a House of Oldenburg category would be enormous. We could have a House of Oldenburg category, and then subcategorize with Glücksburg and Gottorp (and Augustenburg?) sub-categories. Members who are none of these (like the senior Danish line up to 1863) could go in the main category. john k 18:06, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
That sounds like a good idea to me. I'll get started with it one of these first few days. --Leifern 23:41, 2005 Mar 26 (UTC)

Winsor/Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg

When Charles becomes King of England... will this be the end of the House of Winsor? because he is the son of Prince Philip who belongs to the house of Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg.

It will be the end of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. Supposedly Charles is also of the House of Windsor, in the same way that Beatrix is part of the House of Orange-Nassau, or Henri is part of the House of Nassau. john k 5 July 2005 04:26 (UTC)

[edit] how to present notability

The list of notable scions of this house contains people whose highest notability is earned through their marriages and positions achieved by marital alliance. That's reason why it's useful to mention already in the beginning of each person's listing, the thing that made (usually her) very notable. The ruke of using maiden name is intended for NAMING the articles, and not for how to mention the person in the article. Therefore I regard it over-eagerness to forcefully change everything to use maiden name, even in cases where another sort of description fits better the context. We do not hopefully say that in an article telling about interior design in baroque French place that "Anne of Austria decided to renovate the place" but we, I hope, are able to say "Queen Regent [[Anne of Austria|Anne]], during her son's minority, decided to renovate the place". It is altigether well to mention a historical person using descriptions that are most telling in the context where it s used, and only the wiki-link needs to be directed to the correctly-named article. Besides, it will be a repetitive (and frustrating) list if products of a certain house, who therefore usually share the same surname, must be listed using that same surname in each one's listing alreafdy at the beginning - lists are much better done if they highlight the difference between the persons, and not present them with only small thing differing, such as the first name (and sometimes even first names are shared between two or more persons of the same house). Henq 09:40, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

We say Anne of Austria because that name is instantly recognizable while Queen Regent Anne leaves most readers scratching their heads. User:Dimadick

[edit] Arms

What on Earth is the sinister half of these arms? A bordure deeply indented? Anybody know how it is blazoned in German? --Orange Mike | Talk 15:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Dynasty coat of arms

Locating the proper arms for this dynasty seems somewhat tricky. In the case that the intended "head" of this family is considered to be the line currently residing in Glücksburg Castle [as the list seems to suggest] then no free image is available. This family's arms can be seen at http://www.schloss-gluecksburg.de/ (top left). If only monarchs qualify, the relevant head must be the Danish monarch and the relevant insignia would be either the current arms of the Danish royals or the former Danish arms which has been used by both the Danish and Greek branches. This symbol was changed slightly in 1903 and prince Carl wasn't proclaimed king of Norway before 1905 otherwise it would fit nicely with him as well. A third option is the arms of the House of Oldenburg (Or two bars Gules) which is described as a dynastic symbol on the Danish monarchy's official webpage. I haven't been able to locate a copy of this arms either. In any case, the modern Landeswappen of Schleswig-Holstein is incorrect. Valentinian T / C 00:03, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

A house transcends monarchy and the like. The arms that should be used are those of the "main" branch of the family, that is the one which is not differenced by any other territorial or royal arms. The Queen of Denmark is not and cannot be head of the house as she is a female and there are living males. Perhaps someone can contact the Ducal Family about permissions or a free version of the arms? Charles 00:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
To put it shortly, the arms which all members of this house are entitled to bear should be the arms used. Similar to the escutcheon of Saxony common to all Wettins. Charles 00:43, 28 March 2008 (UTC)