Talk:House of Oldenburg
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RE: Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh
If and when one of his descendents ever did ascended the British throne, will they be the House of Windsor or the House of Mountbatten-Windsor?
- As clarified in all three of the articles you link to, it will still be the House of Windsor. Mountbatten-Windsor is only a personal surname. -- Jao 21:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Oldenburg or Oldenburg
Does "Oldenburg" in this article refer to Oldenburg in Oldenburg (state) or to Oldenburg, Schleswig-Holstein? -- Petri Krohn 06:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
- The latter. Charles 10:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
to Oldenburg.
[edit] Counts / dukes of Schleswig and Holstein.
The current table is wrong. Both the kings of Denmark and the dukes of Holstein-Gottorp used the titles of Duke of Schleswig and Holstein at the same time. The current table makes it look like the kings of Denmark relinquished the title, which was not the case. This can be seen from the titles used in Danish laws and in the coats of arms of the Danish monarchs. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 22:50, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
- Although the coats of arms argument doesn't prove much, there can not be any doubt that the Danish monarchs (until the death of Frederick IX, it seems) even formally claimed the title. However, the table shows titles under which members of the house have reigned in various states, not merely titles which they have claimed. Whatever position Frederick IX held in (parts of) Schleswig-Holstein, he did it in the capacity of King of Denmark, not in the capacity of Duke of Schleswig and Holstein. South of the Danish border, he had no more jurisdiction than Juan Carlos I has in Jerusalem (he formally claims to be the King of Jerusalem) or than I would have in Denmark if I signed this posting with "Jao, King of Denmark". -- Jao 23:24, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
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- I was thinking more in line of the coats of arms scattered around the Royal parts of the two provinces, e.g. the Danish arms on the North Gate of Flensburg. I am also very much aware that the last person that took those titles even remotely serious was King Christian X, but by excluding the Oldenburgers from the list between 1580 and 1721/1773 - although they controlled roughly 1/4 of the two provinces and were co-rulers (with the Gottorp dynasty) in an additional 1/2 - 1/3 of the entire region makes it look like they had been expelled from the provinces which was clealy not the case. I have no problems with listing them as "co-rulers" of Schleswig until 1721 and the same for Holstein Holstein until 1773. But given the importance the Gottorpers and the region played in Danish foreign policy during the 18th century, the current list doesn't seem accurate. Valentinian (talk) / (contribs) 18:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
