Talk:Hotu Matu'a

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

I had never seen Hotu Matua spelled "Hotu Matu'a" until I came across this page. Currently, googling "Hotu Matua" returns 19,500 results, whereas googling the name spelled as "Hotu Matu'a" returns less than half that number at only 9,330 results. Therefore I just added to the article that what this page refers to as "Hotu Matu'a" is more commonly spelled "Hotu Matua". However, since "Matua" is more common, it may be appropriate for someone to rename this page "Hotu Matua". Adrigon 04:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

• Oppose This search reveals that the most correct form contains an apostrophe, as in the original Rapanui name. I created a redirect in Hotu Matua so that no users searching for that form will miss the article.--Húsönd 19:43, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

I myself would actually prefer that pages be titled under the "more correct" ethnic Oceanic spelling also, but ironically have been opposed on that as well, due to Wikipedia's WP:UE guidelines about "popular convention" being cited. I accepted that. But that search you cite returns less than 1'000 results. And if this page is going to be titled with the more ethnic glottal stop, then there are other pages I would like to be (re)named more ethnically and "correctly" as well. Adrigon 23:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

• "Popular convention" doesn't mean inaccuracy. Sources for "Hotu Matua" denote either misknowledge of the correct form or carelessness of the writer. These reasons are unacceptable in an encyclopedia. The accurate name is "Hotu Matu'a" and I would support your proposals to bring accuracy to many other Oceanic names.--Húsönd 00:19, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

If the more indigenous spelling is the only truly "accurate" and thus acceptable spelling--rather than both actually being correct but one being more appropriate for titles on Wikipedia based on common usage in an English context--then that does indeed establish the existence of a precedent favorable to ethnic names which have been spelled in ways that resulted in/given what would therefore be misnomers, by others from elsewhere. Ergo I suppose I'm safe in assuming that this would apply even if it does occur within the culture to which the name comes from, such as in the name of the Hotel Hotu Matua located on Easter Island? If that is the case, then please visit Talk:Chamorros. Adrigon 02:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.