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For authorship attribution before table was spun-off, see the history section of the hot dog article. youngamerican (talk) 18:39, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Move?

Would anyone object to moving this article to List of hot dog variations? youngamerican (ahoy-hoy) 01:27, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New York State White Hot Dogs

I say remove the "pronounced coo-nee" comment from this section. There is a disagreement on par with the soda/pop debate as to the actual pronounciation of the word coney, and from my experience its split about half and half between "coo-nee" and "cone-ee."

I've also only heard of them referred to as white hots in Rochester, and coneys in Syracuse.

[edit] North Eastern Massachusetts

I made a few changes to the section. Looking at it, I was a little surprised at what was there, and looked through the archives to try to find a cite, and didn't see anything. I grew up in the area, and a mixture of mustard and relish was known as "Hot dog relish", while the mixture that was specified in the article was always sold as "Hamburger Relish". In addition I had never heard the term "New England Doggie Roll" in my life, and there were no google hits outside of Wikipedia and its mirrors. We always just called them Hot Dog Buns, but they were always labeled "Frankfurt Rolls". I know that they're pretty common throughout New England (and I miss them :( ), so maybe that was what some people from outside the region called them. --- The Bethling(Talk) 14:43, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move to hot dog article

I think this should be merged into the hot dog article - what does everyone think? --Mikecraig 22:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

It was actually split from the hot dog article a couple of years ago to keep that article from getting bogged down in toppings variations and, for that reason, I would strongly oppose such a merger. I would, however, support a rename to List of hot dog variations or something like that. youngamerican (ahoy hoy) 23:44, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Not Neutral

Much of the hot dog variations article represents opinion, and thus would seem to violate the neutrality requirement. The Los Angeles entry is particularly egregious in this respect, amounting to (presumably) one person's review of the city's hot dog offerings. Additionally, much that is presented as fact is actually opinion. For example, referring to Dodger Dogs as "world famous" is quite a stretch, considering that I'd never heard of them until I moved from Boston to L.A. By that token, Fenway Franks should also be described as world famous, as Bostonians are, if anything, even more (unjustifiably) certain that everyone's heard of them as Angelenos are about Dodger Dogs. In fact, the same could probably be asserted for all Major League Baseball hot dogs across the United States. A better approach would be removing all bias, opinion and conjecture from this page.

76.173.105.45 21:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know. If you removed all the bias, opinion and conjecture from this article, I don't see how there'd be much of an article left. Fundumentally, this article isn't an encyclopedia article at all. It's not an explanation of the established and authoratitative data in regards hot dog varianitions. It's a collection of baseline data reported by local observers without any explanation at all. The entire article is new research and unsubstantiated claims.

I agree. This should be removed, altogether.75.57.125.155 (talk) 02:59, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

20 years from now, when someone has actually researched this subject well enough to make an authoratitave statement, this article might be worthy of a footnote in an encyclopedia, but it will never stand as an article by itself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.50.212 (talk) 15:12, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Dodger Dogs not "world famous"? Vin Scully mentioned them all the time when he did broadcasts for NBC and he happened to be working his Dodger's games. I'm guessing the "never heard of Dodger Dogs" was born in the last 20 years or didn't watch much baseball because EVERYONE who's ever watched Game of the Week on NBC before they lost the contract after 1989 has heard the term "Dodger Dog". It's almost as famous as Costas on Game of the Week always raving about Milwaukee's Brats and the "brown mustard" they used to use at old County Stadium. I've never been NEAR Milwaukee and I've always wanted to try their mustard on a brat just from hearing them talk about it.

There is no real way to say anything is "world famous" if you want to know the truth. But when word of mouth spreads and it's well known without even having been to the place mentioned it's "world famous" and Dodger Dogs are just that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seattlehawk94 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Kansas City Style

I grew up in the Kansas City area and lived there for about 25 years, yet have never, ever heard of anyone putting sauerkraut and melted Swiss cheese on a hot dog. Not even someone who just happens to do this at home or for some sort of personal preference. While I have not had a chance to become familiar with the original source material in this matter it would seem that, at the very least, this is not a widespread enough variation to be an accurate portrayal of a regional cuisine.

24.5.91.143 18:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Upstate New York Hotdogs: Hubba Hubba

I think the statement, "Pat's Hubba Hubba of Portchester, NY is widely regarded as finest hot dog establishment in the Westchester/Fairfield area." needs to be verified. I think it's a non-nuetral viewpoint posing as fact. This is a contentious subject in that area, with several of the hotdog stands having achieved some measure of national prominence, at least one Fairfield County hotdog stand (Super Duper Weenie Man) having been reviewed by the New York Times Restaurant Review.

24.0.50.212 13:20, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Germany

The part on germany is not very accurate, generally only a sausage in a bread roll is considered a hot dog in germany. Currywurst and the likes are not seen as kinds of hot dogs. Also hot dogs are often eaten only with ketchup or mustard, though onions are also sometimes used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.23.55.2 (talk) 11:37, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Iceland

Icelandic hot dogs (pylsa) are made from lamb. Fried onions are an available topping, NBK1122 (talk) 00:29, 13 January 2008 (UTC)