Talk:Hope College
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[edit] History
The history section is pretty incomplete. Anybody want to add to it? Pianoguy 19:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- What do you feel is missing?
- Bouncehoper (talk) 18:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
- It doesn't have any information beyond the fact that it was founded by Van Raalte and when it first admitted women. The year of the first graduating class is not even given. There's a lot of information that can be added, including, but not limited to: the change of Hope from essentially a Dutch-speaking college to an English institution around 1900, the presidency of Gerrit Kollen and the rapid expansion of Hope at that time (including the building of what is now Voorhees, Graves, and other important buildings that are no more, such as Van Raalte Hall and Carnegie gym), the building of Dimnent Chapel on the eve of the great Depression, the rapid expansion of the college post World-War II, the presidency of Calvin VanderWerf in the 1960's which attempted to make the college more liberal and ultimately failed, the presidency of Gordon VanWylen in the 1970's and early 1980's and the controversial firings of non-Christian professors, the huge campus-wide protests over mandatory chapel attendance in the 1960's which resulted in many students being suspended and drated to fight in the Vietnam War, the building of DeWitt as a student center complete with a bowling alley, the burning of Van Raalte Hall in the 1980's which resulted in DeWitt being taken over for adminstrative use, the gradual change from Hope as essentially a feeder for Western Sem in its early history to a more secular liberal arts school, something about the history of Hope's relationship to the RCA. This is just for starters... Pianoguy (talk) 17:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
- hmmm... well maybe some of the "firsts" would be good. but not everything listed needs to be in there. Like Dimnent, or World War II, DeWitt built, things like that. I must admit I am impressed with your knowledge, but some of that is minutiae and not necessary. Hopefully we can add some of that in soon.
- Also, sorry about the delay....:(
- Bouncehoper (talk) 08:53, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
- It doesn't have any information beyond the fact that it was founded by Van Raalte and when it first admitted women. The year of the first graduating class is not even given. There's a lot of information that can be added, including, but not limited to: the change of Hope from essentially a Dutch-speaking college to an English institution around 1900, the presidency of Gerrit Kollen and the rapid expansion of Hope at that time (including the building of what is now Voorhees, Graves, and other important buildings that are no more, such as Van Raalte Hall and Carnegie gym), the building of Dimnent Chapel on the eve of the great Depression, the rapid expansion of the college post World-War II, the presidency of Calvin VanderWerf in the 1960's which attempted to make the college more liberal and ultimately failed, the presidency of Gordon VanWylen in the 1970's and early 1980's and the controversial firings of non-Christian professors, the huge campus-wide protests over mandatory chapel attendance in the 1960's which resulted in many students being suspended and drated to fight in the Vietnam War, the building of DeWitt as a student center complete with a bowling alley, the burning of Van Raalte Hall in the 1980's which resulted in DeWitt being taken over for adminstrative use, the gradual change from Hope as essentially a feeder for Western Sem in its early history to a more secular liberal arts school, something about the history of Hope's relationship to the RCA. This is just for starters... Pianoguy (talk) 17:52, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Athletics
I feel the scores to the games are not needed for this article. If someone feels this is absolutely necessary please include a link so as to avoid cluttering the page.
The information on the ESPN poll is extremely misleading and I do not think it merits inclusion on this page. You will recall that the results of this poll were influenced by the college, which encouraged its students and alumni to log on and vote for the survey. In return ESPN provided free cable for one year to on-campus housing.
If someone feels this needs inclusion it will be necessary to include a more detailed explanation. Pianoguy 05:27, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Scores, no.
I was on campus, though, during the ESPN poll. Yes, we were encouraged to vote, but so were other schools. I don't recall anyone receiving free cable after that. I'm not sure where you've gotten your information.
Bouncehoper 02:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Alumni
Can somebody go through and explain all the professor additions to the alumni and why they are significant, just for clarification. Please put this information in the article- remember to explain why they are especially notable. We can't list all professors that graduate from Hope- so putting something like, "Professor Brown of Harvard, inventor of the [whatever] will help clarify who does and who does not belong on this list. Thanks. Pianoguy (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is William Buhro being removed? He is one of the world's most esteemed researchers in nanowires. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.252.254.19 (talk) 21:56, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- See above comment. Feel free to restore, but put some clarification, perhaps "William Buhro, highly-esteemed nanowire researcher" or something to that effect. A link is useful so we can verify. Pianoguy (talk) 19:59, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
Why is Rob 'CmdrTaco' Malda being removed? This is the second time it's been removed without any reason. I think it's an important piece of information.
Agree, as the founder of Slashdot he is a notable alumni
I guess slashdot is some sort of an accomplishment.
[edit] French
An anon just added a link to a French version of this article - I can't confirm it exists but the database has been screwy this morning so I don't trust removing it yet. Rmhermen 16:54, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes it does exist. Rmhermen 13:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Janet Chandler
Ok, I realize that the school doesn't really want the whole deal in here, esp. the Public Relations dept, but it is pertinent news to Hope College. Besides, isn't it good press that people from the school helped solve it? May we please put back some details? We can spare the gory ones, those aren't necessary. It's infamous, not famous, but still part of Hope's history. Doesn't Janet deserve that? Bouncehoper 19:03, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Merge
Phi Kappa Alpha is a unique institution to Hope College. Both would benefit from being in the main article. The sources are thin to find the independent importance of this article. I will merge unless someone has a good reason "why not". --Stormbay (talk) 04:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
- That also sounds like a good candidate for deletion, under the notability clause. Pianoguy (talk) 18:41, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Is that the co-ed frat? Please specify. Bouncehoper (talk) 18:33, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

