Talk:Honor code

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[edit] BYU

I included the comments on BYU because I thought that it applied to the article, as it is quite different from most of the other Honor codes, and it is fairly well known. -tito2000 9:51, Aug 25, 2006.

Should this include specific examples of honor codes, or should this remain an article that only discusses honor codes in broad terms? I write this based on editing conflicts between myself and Meelar. --L33tminion 21:25, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

Issue resolved. Specific example moved to article for Olin College. --L33tminion 21:39, Oct 11, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Limited Entry

This entry seems unnecessarily limted to the idea of academic honor codes -- the idea of an honor code may have much broader implications both interms of the ethical principles and the behaviors that are expected to come from the code. It would be nice to see this discussion expanded.

Zutano99 (talk) 16:59, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Photo really needed?

That newspaper story seems out of place.

[edit] Colleges with Honor Codes

List is based on a google search of Wikipedia, and thus may not be complete. --L33tminion 20:36, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)

Nearly every college in the United States (and elsewhere) has an Honor Code; and definitely every law school does. What's the point in having the list? Peyna 00:39, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
I agree. There are, however, a handful of schools where an honor code is essential to the operation of the institution. These schools should be listed.

That is not entirely accurate. Many schools have something they call an honor code, but the academic literature is surprisingly detailed in what they consider to be an actual honor code in the style of old W&M or Haverford. According to academics studying these things, an honor code must have most if not all of the following elements: 1)a written pledge of honesty that the student signs, 2)a student controlled judiciary (not just a dean or a board that has a few students on it) that hears alleged violations, 3) unproctored examinations, and 4) an obligation for all students to help enforce the code. I'll tell you right now that most schools don't do half of these things. Redzuny 21:05, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Do you have direct cites for that? If so, perhaps that should be cited on the page and then examples of a "traditional" honor code (ie W&M, Haverford, Davidson) should be given and examples of a "titular" or "non-student" honor code (ie... I don't know, I guess those other schools) should be given? There are large differences in these codes and those should be mentioned in the article.LKAdriaan 01:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
The Academic Integrity Center does a reasonable job at defining an honor code at http://www.academicintegrity.org/educational_resources/honor_code_101.php, although their definition purposefully paints them as outdated since they have their own agenda they are trying to push. Redzuny 05:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Removed the list

I went ahead and removed the list, it was getting too large and per my comment above, really pointless. You'd be better off with a list of universities that don't have an honor code. (Since there would be very few of them). Peyna 13:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Honor Codes in England ?

Is there anything equivalent to an honor code (or in Commonwealth spelling, "honour code") in British universities ? What about in other non-English-speaking countries ?

[edit] W&M

Why does this have the William and Mary box? If anything, the content of the article would seem to indicate that this should NOT be the case . . .

Actually, the very first honor system/honor code (whatever you want to call it) was created at W&M by Thomas Jefferson. It even mentions it in the article. As such, W&M has a claim to be the originator of a now widely used practice of academic honor systems. Therefore, a W&M template is appropriate, especially considering it is a major aspect of the College. -Jrcla2 (talk) 18:13, 11 May 2008 (UTC)