Talk:Honda Ridgeline
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regarding: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Honda_Ridgeline&diff=prev&oldid=64242351 it seems that there are numerous publications who believe the ridgeline is the first pickup truck to receive independent suspension for all four wheels.
- http://www.autofieldguide.com/articles/040505.html
- http://db.theautochannel.com/db/ncbg/list_makes.php?stylename=Pickup
- http://www.autoweek.com/files/specials/2005_detroit/honda/ridgeline/ridgeline_info.doc
was this statement removed because it is false? Jrrs 06:45, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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[edit] size classification
I saw this edit "11:37, 3 June 2006 68.106.47.223 (Talk) (Longer wheelbase and total length than Chevy Silverado makes the Ridgeline a full-size pickup)" and the field "Similar" listing Chevrolet Avalanche, Dodge Ram, Nissan Titan, & Toyota Tundra and feel this is incorrect. My Chevy 2003 s-10 crew cab 4X4 has a 123" wheelbase, so is my s-10 full size too? I think another qualifier needs to be used for class or compare crew cab to crew cab not silverado 2 door to 4 door crew cab as the key classifier.
- Until someone comes up with an authoritative entry on Wikipedia designating sizes of trucks, I must contest that this truck is, in fact, a full-size pickup. The Ridgeline is bigger than the Toyota T100[1] (which, according to Wikipedia, is designated as a full-size pickup). Sorry about your "feeling," but the dimensions don't lie, and this truck is within a few inches in size of its same-class competitors. Additionally, it is referred to as a full-size pickup by MSN Autos[2], Consumer Reports[3], and The Auto Channel[4]. Show me another 4,500 pound mid-size truck and I'll call BS. Chimaera2005 07:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
I posted the initial comment, and thought I would provide information in the form of numbers. I hope it makes sense. From MSN autos: http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2003&make=Chevrolet&model=S10%20Pickup&trimid=-1 & http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2006&make=Honda&model=Ridgeline&trimid=-1 & http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2006&make=Nissan&model=Frontier&trimid=-1
2003 Chevrolet S10 crew cab 4X4 LS 2006 Honda Ridgeline RTS 2006 Nissan Frontier LE Crew Cab 4WD
Weight: 4019 4494 4451 Length: 205.30 206.8 205.50 Width: 67.90 77.80 72.80 Wheelbase: 122.90 122.00 125.90
This isn't my "feeling", that's Toyota's slogan (Oh what a feeling! Toyota!) This is exactly my point, comparing crew cab models with 4WD or AWD to crew cab models with 4WD or AWD. If one compares apples to twinkies then they could also then draw the conclusion that a Toyota Tacoma 2wd regular cab is a mid-size sedan/coupe since the 2006 Honda Accord EX V-6 Coupe w/AT weighs 3364lbs vs the Tacoma's 3180lbs. My 2002 F150 XL Short Bed 2WD weighed 3990lbs, does that make it a mid-size luxury sedan like the BMW 525i Sedan with a weight of 3450lbs? Now to list specs of trucks on comparsion list currently:
2003 Chevrolet Avalanche 1500 4WD 2006 Dodge Ram 1500 ST Quad Cab 4WD 2006 Toyota Tundra SR5 Double Cab 4WD Weight: 5654 5190 4965 Length: 221.60 227.70 230.10 Width: 79.80 79.50 72.80 Wheelbase: 130.00 140.50 140.50
So, you are correct. Dimensions do not lie. But does that make the apple a regular cab full-size twinkie (since the apple is heavier) or is the twinkie a mid-size crew cab apple?
from http://www.atvsport.com/output.cfm?ID=1048123 "The Honda measures 206.8 inches long by 77.8 inches wide and has a 122-inch wheelbase. Those figures place the Honda in the mid-size truck category (Dodge Dakota Quad Cab, Nissan Frontier LE Crew Cab)."
[edit] Towing Capacity
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however recent reports in auto magazines show the truck struggling to pull even an 1500 lb pop-up camper trailer[citation needed].
I've been unable to find anything to back this up. It was added here but looked suspicious. Now that I've had the time to scour the net for references, I can't find anything to back it up, and an article on edmunds.com seems to contradict it ('.. hooked up both trucks to 5,000-pound trailers, the stated maximum towing capacity for the Honda Ridgeline.').
Honda has its hands in Edmunds' pockets, and they're not looking for coinage. Winding Road is the publication you were seeking, and good luck with the slant on the article; no amount of polish and innovative naming can put enough polish on this turd.
[edit] Bogus competitors
According to MSN Autos, the Ridgeline competes with the Dodge Ram and Toyota Tundra, NOT the Dodge Dakota and the Toyota Tacoma. Thank you.Hondasaregood 22:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
- If you cite source {{citeweb}} it will add strenght to your edit/assertion.--I already forgot 22:59, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Who cares what MSN Autos think? Honda themselves cite the Chevy Colorado & Avalanche, Toyota Tacoma, Dodge Dakota and Nissan Frontier - [5]
[edit] Article tone
This article reads way, way, way too much like advertising copy, and some of it (like the supposed "benefits" of the unibody...) reads like advertising spin, even worse. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about the vehicle (other than its overall uselessness, too small a bed to be a truck, too small a cab to be a suv, too poor of milage to be a daily driver, too much horsepower, too large to drive on-road, too crappy of drivetrain and suspension to drive off-road, and too ugly to be seen in) to write an unbiased article about it... Could someone go through and remove everything that sounds like blatant advertisement, aiming to make it a good encyclopedia article? Bushytails 05:19, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
