Talk:Honda CR-V

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I removed the mention of the Passport as predecessor, because the successor to the Passport is the Honda Pilot (i.e., largish/midsize SUV, rather than small-SUVs such as the CR-V or Toyota RAV4). Moreover, the Passport and CR-V were sold simultaneously until the Pilot was released, as the Passport and CR-V served different market segments entirely.

Similarly, I took out the mention of the Honda Element as successor—it seems a little silly to talk of a successor, when the CR-V itself is still marketed. Also, same as above, the CR-V and Element are targeted to different market segments, although I would agree these two segments have more overlap than between the Passport and the CR-V. --Ryanaxp 00:19, Dec 15, 2004 (UTC)

how about moving the picture of the 2005 CRV to the gen 2 section instead of being in the gen 1 section? worldtravller

I corrected the generation 1.5 engine specs. VTEC did not appear in the CRV until the introduction of the K24 engine for 2002. Information was gained from: http://hybrid2.honda-perf.org/tech/b20/b20tech.html

A very interesting article on how Honda created the cylinder sleeves for the B20: http://dwolsten.tripod.com/articles/jan96a.html

I removed references to the transmission from the Generation 1 section - as this was only relevant to the US model CR-V. CR-Vs in other countries had a manual transmission available from day 1, and the automatic was not standard. It should also be noted that CR-Vs in some parts of the world (such as most of Europe) do not have the K24 2.4L engine, but a 2.0L i-VTEC engine. Someone should add this information to the Generation 2 section Davez621 11:25, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Made some further changes to generation 2, version 2. Wheel dimensions in millimetres are unnecessary - all countries use inches to describe wheel sizes. I have therefore removed the metric equivalents. Only the US model receives standard driver, passenger, side and curtain airbags. ********COMMENT: NOT TRUE - UK MARKET ALSO GETS DRIV/PASS/SIDE/CURTAIN BAGS, AS DOES MUCH OF EUROPE******* Here in Australia, only 2 airbags are standard, with side airbags optional. Curtain airbags aren't available at all. I have again re-worded the article. I have also re-worded the introductory paragraph: I do not agree that the CR-V is a "crossover", because all SUVs are "crossovers" in the sense that they are a breed between car and truck (see my discussion in the crossover SUV article). Davez621 09:18, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

The introduction says, "Honda produces CR-Vs in the United Kingdom and Japan for the American market." To me, this is somewhat confusing, suggesting that CR-Vs are only available in North America (this is not the case, as the article says further.) As far as I know, CR-Vs for all world markets are made in the UK and Japan.

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[edit] Attention NORTH AMERICAN contributors!

WITH REFERENCE TO THIS ARTICLE, AND PARTICULARLY TO CONTRIBUTORS BASED IN NORTH AMERICA....

Please don't assume that just because something applies in America, that it applies worldwide. For example, Gen2 CR-V engine's don't JUST come in 2.4l size - there is also a 2.0l that is available to much of the world. Also, Honda in US might call it a "Comfortable Runabout Vehicle", but in Europe and Japan it's called "Compact Recreational Vehicle".

Remember this vehicle is built in Japan and United Kingdom, and America is just one market for it!

Rant over ;-)

[edit] Disclaimer Rant

Since we had one rant here already, what is with all the little disclaimers that have been popping up on Wikipedia that state the obvious. Like the one on the current version of the CR-V entry towards the bottom that says "This article or section contains information about a scheduled or anticipated future automobile..." I have a disclaimer: "If you're hobby is hopping around an online encyclopedia posting tags that state the obvious, you need a new hobby." I liked wikipedia better before the nerds took over. Oh Well.

Rant over ;P

[edit] CR-V To Midsize??

I told you, Hyundai & Mazda will wind up with 3 crossover SUV's. The Toyota RAV4 has morphed to more of a mid-size crossover SUV, and the next CR-V is shorter than RAV4. Here's how it goes:

Honda Element Vs. Hyundai Tucson Vs. Mazda CX-5
Honda CR-V Vs. Hyundai Santa Fe Vs. Mazda CX-7
Honda Pilot Vs. Hyundai Veracruz Vs. Mazda CX-9 -- Bull-Doser 03:20, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

The Element is a niche car that's similar in size and price to the CR-V. The CR-V isn't increasing drastically in size in its redesign the way the RAV and Santa Fe did, and there's no such car as the CX-5. IFCAR 12:48, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Attention UK contributors and any reader of the specs.amayama.com site in Russia !!!

Granted the rantings that Honda decided to open "one" of their many manufacturing plants there and that you have a market for (sub)"compact" vehicles like the Mini can be proven, the "fact" remains that Honda originated the term CR-V to be Comfortable Runabout Vehicle from conception.

(With probably the exception of the few who offer only their island for authority and their bias against North America instead of providing independently verifiable sources) Anyone capable will easily find Comfortable Runabout Vehicle clearly spelled out on very credible sites "open" to "peer review" including two official (C) Honda Motor Co., Ltd. sources - the Honda Japan CR-V Fact Book http://www.honda.co.jp/factbook/auto/CR-V/200610/01.html document and the World Honda http://world.honda.com/news/2001/4010918.html document.

Also, until a verifiable source is given, caring peer reviewers should at least consider warning readers on a contributor mixing a single market reality with own opinion claiming wider scope and adding their personal grand feelings as expressed in that contributor's "many markets such as the United Kingdom, only all-wheel drive is offered due to lack of demand for lower specification vehicles and higher consumer expectations" example. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.112.74.201 (talk) 13:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Similar Hyundai Vehicles For The CR-V

Just think! The Santa Fe is V6-only for North America, and still competes up against the RAV4 and CR-V. The Santa Fe is priced up against the RAV4 and CR-V worldwide.

Tucson - Element
Santa Fe - CR-V
Veracruz - Pilot
Portico

The Tucson is similar in size to the Element, and the current CR-V's length is similar to the original Santa Fe. The CR-V's length is also positioned between the Tucson & Santa Fe, and the Santa Fe is much closer to the CR-V than the Tucson. When the Nissan Rogue arrives for next year, this CUV will be tackling mainly with the Honda CR-V, Hyundai Santa Fe and Toyota RAV4. The Santa Fe & CR-V are mid-level CUVs. The Tucson & Sportage twins have got a longer wheelbase than the CR-V, and they're both powerful than the CR-V, because the CR-V lacks a V6 engine. In North America, the Sportage is still Kia's only crossover SUV.

BTW, I switched the similar vehicle to the Kia Sportage, since the Sportage will be Kia's mid-level CUV for '09 with the arrival of the smaller Soul. -- Bull-Doser 03:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CRV towing

I own a 1999CRV and want to tow it behind a RV. Is there any problems?

Pchancellor 22:38, 27 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Subjective Opinion

The following lines are completely subjective; some people may have preferred the previous interior:

"The interior was also improved, as some consumers felt that the support provided by the seats was inadequate for longer trips. The cloth on the seats was also redesigned with a much more attractive pattern."

I recommend changing them to just report the facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.99.75.2 (talk) 16:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)