Talk:Holden Caulfield

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This article was listed for deletion by a new user, probably a sock puppet. It was not a good faith listing, and no interesting or relevant discussion resulted, so I'm not archiving the VfD discussion. Isomorphic 22:06, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Am I just getting crotchety, or does it bug people to have band lyrics mentioned in an encyclopedic article? To my knowledge, Britannica or Americana never did this, & I frankly don't care if bands I never heard of mention fictional characters (or even real people) unless what they said in the damn song is somehow relevant. This sounds like a free ad, or an ego-boo, & ought to be del. Trekphiler 09:09, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I agree and am in favor of deleting it. --JOK3R 20:22, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

I removed this from the article: "He runs into an older female acquaintance and tries to seduce her, but instead gets drunk and makes a fool of himself." Unless I've gone off some crazy cliff, this never happened in the book. Holden never really tries seducing anyone, does he? The only females in the novel Holden talked to are Bernice, the Seattle blonde (who's not an acquaintance, and he doesn't get drunk at that time because the waiter wouldn't slip rum in his Coke); Sally Hayes (When did Holden seduce her? When did Holden get drunk around her? He got drunk and called her later, yes, but that's not what this person is saying); D.B.'s old girlfriend with huge knockers (whom Holden loathes); Mrs. Antolini (who appears for about a second); the hooker; Miss Faith Cavendish (again, not an acquaintance); and Phoebe. That's it, right? StarryEyes 14:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

Holden can also be compared to today's pedophile, because of his apparent liking towards children.

... removed the above sentence, but felt it necessary to correct aswell - Holden is drawn to the innocence of children in lieu of the corrupt world they inhabit. Wants to be the catcher in the rye? Protect them from corruption, like the profane vandalism? Innocence & purity are the anti-phony? Thinking outloud - a little vodka is clouding me up.

Um...the article says the novel takes place in "December 5061." Very interesting, considering this is not a futuristic novel at all. I deleted it.

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[edit] Holden in other works

"...and other members of the Salinger family are featured in..."

Rather, the Caulfield family?

  • Yes, correct--it has been amended. Although one can say the Caulfield family is Salinger's family, this is hardly the place to get theological. Slof 19:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Song references

I merged the two instances of "Here's to Life" in the list of references to Holden in music. --Nanten 19:05, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Viola Caulfield?

Since when did Holden have two sisters?

It doesn't matter to me, but the text says Viola is a sister mentioned in one of the books or stories or something. If that is not true, then Viola should be excised, or aborted, or whatever. Or, anyway, explained better. GeorgeLouis 02:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

See near the end of the story "I'm Crazy" itself. Viola lives in the same house as him. - THE GREAT GAVINI {T-C} 14:21, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Caul-Field

You know, I wouldn't be sorry to see that go--it seems to be a book report from some Scandinavian English class. I just didnt like the reason given for taking it out. Nareek 22:11, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Verbose

To many big words. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.30.59.120 (talk) 19:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC).


[edit] Holden McNeil

Seriously doubt there is any connection. If you want to, you could say that Holden was named after him 100 years ahead of time because they knew he would be a great character. Seriously, not everything with the name "Holden" and "Caulfield" relates to this guy. Together? Maybe. But separately, no. Zchris87v 22:23, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Morrisey?

I'm sorry, but I do not ever recall "Morrisey" being stated as Caulfield's last name in the book The Catcher in the Rye. In fact, on page 85, Holden reveals his middle initial as "V.", though, in jest, says it stands for "Vitamins". At any rate, am I missing a page from this book that I must have read about twenty-five times? --Satyricrash 06:58, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

It's his middle name (Jahova nigga)

in the short story slight rebellion off madison. check the external links. i've put it back in--Mongreilf 18:06, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Drain the boy

but excuse me, could anybody tell me the reason why the title's "catcher in the rye?" is there a chapter referring to it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.49.7.48 (talk) 14:28, 29 December 2007 (UTC) The reason it is called "catcher in the rye" is because it's the only thing Holden would ever want to grow up to be. He said so himself in the book.

[edit] Red crew cut?

nowhere in the book does it say that holden's hair is red. check minus 10:37, 2 may 2008