Template talk:History of Iran
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[edit] Starting point
Is pre-Aryan history is appropriate for the History of Iran template? Should it include, for example, the Median Empire and the Achaemenid Empire? Or should it start with the first Iranian (Aryan) rule? Is the first Aryan rule the Sassanid dynasty or is it earlier? Were the Arsacid dynasty Aryans? What is the evidence that they were or were not? When was the Aryan invasion down from the steppes? --Bejnar 19:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Jiroft
There is a wikipedia article on it Jiroft "Whether this is a lost kingdom of Aratta as Dr. Madzjizadeh believes or not, Jiroft is definitely the Lost Paradise for archaeologists and anyone who has a passion for ancient history.". But there is a question mark on the Aratta part. [[1]]
[[2]] Dr. Majidzadeh is well known (google search) in the archaeological community and his connection with Aratta is somewhat tenuously accepted by some other scholars. That is why the Aratta is in question mark. Unfortunately the authorities did not take good care of this excavation. [3]. Either way, it is a major civilization in the center of the Iranian plateau and part of Iranian/World history. It might be an extension of Elamite. But I think it should be in template. Here is a good article on the issue [4]. --alidoostzadeh 19:35, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- Jiroft is a town in the Kerman province. Konar Sandal is an important Bronze Age site. Other important Bronze Age sites include Shahr-i Sokhta, Tepe Yahya and others. This template cannot be the place to list Bronze Age archaeological sites. The 3000 BC date is highly suspect. If you must have a "pre-Elam" entry here, make it Prehistoric Iran or Bronze Age Iran, along the lines of Prehistoric Armenia, Prehistoric Georgia, Prehistoric Britain, Bronze Age Europe etc. dab (𒁳) 21:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
- Right. From what I have heared so far though, Jiroft is dated around 2800 B.C. I guess we will have to wait a decade or so before scholars can reliably assess the background and history of the site/civilization. Perhaps though as you said, a Pre-Elam or ancient excavation sites might not be bad to add. Another interesting one is Marlik although some have associated it with Indo-Aryans. I would add Kassites, Mitanni (according to Britannica extended up to western Zagros), Lulubi and etc. though to the template--alidoostzadeh 22:48, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
"Jiroft" (Konar Sandal) is dated to the 5th millennium BC. There are lots of neolithic sites in Iran. Again, if you are interested in discussing them, do a Prehistoric Iran article and link that. dab (𒁳) 12:54, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
