Talk:Histrionic personality disorder
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[edit] Weird word in 3rd paragraph
"They are emotionally labile and cling to others in the context of immature relationships." I have never heard the word "labile": before, so I am hesitant to edit this. Is it a medical term, or a misspelling, or what? --DOHC Holiday 21:22, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
- Labile means erratic emotionality. It is a common term in psychiatry. --DashaKat 16:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Copyright Queries
"quotes from the manual are NOT COPYRIGHT PROTECTED - they are free to be reproduced)"
The above needs a citation where the author of the manual has relinquished copyright. --mav
- I removed the prevalence stats, because they aren't in the external link, and such a claim needs some kind of evidence, I feel. More importantly, we need to say who said it, so that people who are anti-psychiatry can accept the article as NPOV. Martin
Note: The text in this article was substantially similar to that on http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001531.htm which is marked as "Copyright 2002 A.D.A.M., Inc". Note that presence on a .gov site does not necessarily imply that material is in the public domain! In addition, if it is claimed that this material is from "the manual" ie. the DSM-IV, note that that too is copyrighted, this time by the American Psychiatric Asociation.
I have thus removed it, as per copyright policy.
- Read the source. It's explicitly public domain. Tannin 21:56 Feb 14, 2003 (UTC)
- "Government information at NLM Web sites is in the public domain. Public domain information may be freely distributed and copied, but it is requested that in any subsequent use the National Library of Medicine (NLM) be given appropriate acknowledgement."
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- Actually, if you read the copyright FAQ on the NIH site (http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/faq/copyrightfaq.html), it specifically says that the Adam material is copyrighted. - CE
[edit] Avoiding People
Avoid these people at all costs! I'm pretty sure I got mixed up with somebody who has got this disorder and I can only say that I'm much happier that I now have nothing to do with them.
- Anon, please do not troll, or at the very least constrain your comments on the talk page to the article. Thank you. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
Hmm, I'm not sure avoiding someone with Histrionic Personality Disorder is going to help them in the long time- it may, in fact, make them worse. Everyone needs to be loved at the end of the day; ironically, that's what many people with personality disorders seemed to have been starved of when they were children, when they were abused, abandoned or rejected. Walking away from them as adults is not a solution, but repearts the past, makes them more alienated, and would encourage them to do more destructive (e.g. attention-seeking) behaviours.
I say calm, patience, good therapy, medication, and divine grace are needed to help such people!
- From my experience such people need to be made aware of the disorder by the person they identify with most strongly. It is very difficult to get the sufferer to seek treatment because they have a deep-rooted fear of evaluating themselves. The partner (especially in a long-term relationship) is not the type to divulge the problem on his/ her own and is likely to need counseling also. It takes an incredible amount of patience and strength to shepherd somebody through this. Zoltar 8 11:51, 14 January 2007 (UTC)Z
I'm seeing the symptoms of HPD correlate with "middle child syndrome." Am I correct in thinking that? It seems that there is a constant need for self justification and attention seeking. I love my sister but sometimes I just feel like she's sapping all the energy out of me... Fromshelter 16:01, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
I have a friend who most likely has this disorder; she is very emotionally unstable in nearly every form imaginable, she tries to seem smarter than she actually is, she's publicly contemplated suicide on several occasions for attention, she almost never has her own opinions, she wears odd clothes to get attention, she's very touchy-feely, and she's managed to use all of these tactics to get friends in the first place. The problem is that she's getting on everyone's last nerve, including the most patient person I know, and she's completely oblivious to the actual effect she has on people. Of course, now that we're such close friends, I'd feel bad just abandoning her, even if I do feel liberated whenever she isn't around. Aeuoah 01:58, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
--- Amatuer psychologists are the most dangerous kind. This page does not really emphasis enough that the necessary precondition to any psychiatric or medical condition is that the people who have these "problems" are highly destructive to themselves or to others. Many of the traits listed are common human behavious in normal people at various times. Psychiatric conditions are very difficult to diagnose and you certainly cannot diagnose HPD in a person from the description provided in this article. In fact its dangerous to do so. If you have a serious "problem" with a person, dont try to practice psychology/psychiatry on them. If you insist on telling them they need professional help, then get the hell out of their way, because even if you're right they'll take it as the deep insult it is. They could have the "problem", or you could simply have a "problem" with them. If you feel you are at serious risk from someone, dont feel sorry for them until you have taken measures to protected yourself from them. Dont try to insist or force treatment on them because you are not a doctor and your first priority anyway should be to protect yourself. If you are right about them and you fail to immediately take steps to protect yourself from them they will create serious psychological/prychiatric problems for you. If you think the above is too harsh, then the person DOES NOT have this extremely dangerous medical condition. Dont go around lightly accusing people of being insane or "needing help" - its highly defamatory and extremely offensive. People do funny things for all sorts of reasons. Dont play doctor. Abunyip 01:59, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
-- I wouldn't say avoid is the best advice. But one must be prepared to deal with this kind of a person. I have a similar outlook after working with someone with narcissistic personality disorder (diagnosed by several health/psych professionals). It would be unacceptable to insist that everyone avoids or even claim that I know what is best for someone like this. But being on a low echelon of professionals that works with clients with various disorders, I can relate to the anon comment. Beware when dealing with someone like this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.107.230.145 (talk) 19:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Outside Links
This article needs more citations/footnote references. Two of the "Outside Links" are well referenced, written by psychiatric professionals, and could be a great source of help in this regard. Two of the cites on this page are references to as yet non-existent pages on two persons. Either these pages must be created and referenced, or the material must be referenced from other sources or end up pulled. -I am Kiwi 11:24, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Pictures
Appropriate artwork would enhance this article. For instance, there are paintings of physicians attending to "hysterical female patients" that could be placed alongside the History sectin. -I am Kiwi 11:26, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Good candidates for Histrionic personality disorder
Paris Hilton seems to have this mental illness. I'm no doctor, but she seems to fit the diagnostic criteria like a glove.--aceslead 22:20, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
- A good many hollywood/ music industry types would seem to be candidates for evaluation IMO.Zoltar 8 12:13, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Fictional Histrionics
Could someone add a section in which literary characters or historical figures who likely had this illness could be listed? I think it would help people get a sense of what this disorder is.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.33.51.239 (talk • contribs)
- That's a double edged sword though, I seem to spend so much time moving similar lists to seperate list articles before they overwhelm other text? --Zeraeph 17:55, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Not only that, it would become an all too tempting target for people to stray from the historical and literary, and violate WP:BLP in the process. Either that, or vandalized, (I briefly considered what would happen if I uploaded a picture of my ex-fiancee, but of course I'd never act on that impulse...) -- RoninBK T C 10:56, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
- First character that comes to mind is Melanie Griffith's character "Lulu" aka Audrey in "Something Wild".
My high school psych teacher said Goldie Hahns (I know sp) character from the banger sisters seems to have it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xxbulldogxx (talk • contribs) 09:07, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
- I bet Shiori from MARS has this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.119.14.34 (talk) 03:52, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Repetitious?
Does this article seem to rehash the same things again and again? It seems to list symptoms three times under different headers and twice states that diagnosis is difficult, in different sections. Maybe this should be streamlined?Joyan 16:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Are all women histrionics?
It seems the DSM IV's characteristics for histrionic describes virtually ever female I have ever come into contact with, and surely every woman I have ever dated, except maybe the speech/voice thing. Maybe it's where I live, but women seem to just all be insecure, seek approval, and get as much attention as possible. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.241.29.196 (talk) 17:47, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Shannone1 (talk) 18:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)Wow. It may simply describe the women to whom you are attracted.
[edit] What Do I Do?
Oh My God! This disorder fits me perfectly! I exibit a lot of these symptoms. What do I Do? El Presidante (talk) 16:01, February 8, 2008 —Preceding comment was added at 01:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Histrionic/narcissistic personalities
I have been having an affair for many years with a person that displays these characteristics. This person demonstrates a behavior very similar to what you would associate with a histrionic/ narcissistic personality. It is very difficult to be sure. I am not a professional psychologist or psychiatrist, but her is what I have observe over the years:
It does require a lot of free time to provide them with the attention they constantly crave for. They can be ultra friendly and appear very caring. They will tell you that they love you, adore you and can’t live without you because they know that you will be stimulated to feed they craving for attention. At other times, they can be cold, cruel and show a lack of empathy for others. It is a personality that constantly seesaws between extreme positions. They are very bright and extremely manipulative. They will gradually attempt to control your person and mind. When they sense that they are loosing your attention, they will tell you that you should concentrate on your spouse. This is only a tactic to get you to concentrate on them. If you dropped them (and they don't have another partner) they will call you back and make an excuse about their behavior and tell you about their deep love for you. In reality, your sole purpose is to fill their craving for attention.
When they are not depressed, sex can be utterly unbelievable and kinky. Their craving for sex is limitless and most imaginative. They just want to do it everywhere and as often as possible. It flatters them a great deal when you take pictures of their naked body. Their impulsive drives and flirtatious behavior forces them to look for other partners to sustain their need for attention. When they identify someone they, they can be extremily forward with that person. They don’t shy away from telling him of their deep desire. Once they have ensnared the person, they will have some excuse not to appear too “easy”. They can appear prude one minute and sexually pervasive the next. It can drive you crazy. Again the sole purpose of these swings is to get your full attention by keeping you focus on them exclusively. Obviously, you should not expect to be their sole source of interest after a while because they get bored easily! It requires a lot of imagination to sustain their interest, but it can be most interesting.
They want the ultimate love and attention. If you have another relationship, they will work very hard at breaking the relationship you have with your partner because they want your full attention. They are envious and jealous of your compnion. They are extremely self-centered and continuously talk about themselves. Conversations are usually monologue about themselves, their money, possessions and accomplishments. You learn with time that most of their monologues are somewhat exaggerated. At times, it can be difficult to interrupt their self-centered narratives. They lie with such ease that it becomes a second nature for them. They can easily blur the line between truth and lies. They don’t show any constriction when you catch them lying. They will even try to make you believe a lie even when you know the truth. They are fascinating manipulators.
A word of advice, if you want this type of personify as a lover, make sure to protect yourself from their great abilities at trying to control you and thrash your mind. Don’t ever fall in love. They will destroy your sanity and your life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.81.103.23 (talk) 13:00, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
