Talk:History of the Jews in Malaysia

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Contents 1 Jews in Malaysia. 2 Charles Ephraim 3 eh? Richard Chang? 4 General

[edit] Jews in Malaysia.

Who would have thought? Hee hee. It's a pity that they're moving away. Love 'em or hate 'em, they're still a part of Malaysia's cultural heritage. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.111.255.5 (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Charles Ephraim

Matbe you can put tht Charles Ephraim is the remaining Penangite Jew living in Penang.

[edit] eh? Richard Chang?

isnt that chinese surname? possibly, hes a chinese jewish then?--Towaru 20:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] General

I can't help but wonder whether some of the information in the article is completely incorrect. For example:

Richard Chang -- the linked article says that he is of Malaysian heritage, but makes no mention that he is from Penang. Based on the text of the article, I don't think he's Jewish (note his answer to the question "Are you Jewish?" He says "Not that I know of.") The article is about a play he wrote about Jewish-Chinese cross-cultural issues, but there's no indication that he is a practicing Jew or even identifies as Jewish. Regardless, I'm not sure why it's relevant to mention him in an article specifically about Jews of Penang in a section of "Notable Penangite Jews."

Under the "History" section, the content refers to "Jewish ceremonies -- such as bar mitzvah." The main reason one needs ten men is to form a minyan for prayer. A bar mitzvah requires a minyan in order to give the bar mitzvah boy an aliyah at a prayer service. Without a minyan, a Jewish community is unable to conduct communal prayer services for any of the holidays, including the high holidays of Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur. In other words, I'm confused about why the article refers to the inability to call a bar mitzvah boy to the Torah as one of the main reasons for the dissolution of the community rather than the complete inability to hold a communal prayer service for any reason, including the high holidays.

Techielaw 12:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

There is also the assertion that the community contains members of China's Kaifeng Jewish community, who ostensibly fled China as a result of the communist takeover. Why is there no mention of this anywhere in any other story of the fate of the Kaifeng Jews? I have no doubt Chinese Jews came to Malaysia, perhaps even to Penang following the collapse of the Nationalist régime in China, but I think it's most likely these were Baghdadis, rather than Kaifeng Jews. That's my sheer speculation, but it sounds more plausible than what presently appears, uncited, in the article. Tomer^talk 00:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)