Talk:History of rock climbing

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[edit] History of Rock climbing

Hmmm. 3rd and 4th free ascents of the Nose - hardly notable. Ratagonia 15:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)


[edit] List of Notable Climbers

Anyone have any objection to changing "List of notable rock climbers" to "List of distinguished rock climbers" ? This list should be a subset of List of climbers. Silentrunner 04:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Trying to clean this up a bit, alphabetize and add to list, etc. Hopefully not offend anyone. Silentrunner 04:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)


After some thought I have placed the list of rock climbers here, at least temporarily. This should be simply a subset of the more complete List of climbers, and perhaps it doesn't need to be in this article, particularly since it doesn't fit into an informative narrative of the subject. At the present this article is merely a collection of benchmarks that should be woven into a more complete analysis of the history of the sport. If you feel strongly that this list should be reinserted in the article, please do so, with rationale. If it were to go back in, it should be redesigned and include not only many more prominent rock climbers of the past and present, but more information on each entry, tying that climber into a historical context. Silentrunner 18:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Uh, why here? First off, ANY climber noted on Wiki is "notable", or they should not be listed. Therefore, this list sees silly. Where to draw the line. my friend Dave did a first ascent - does that make him notable. Yabo was a notable climber - but little will be found on him in print. Notable? As a climber - interesting. As a wikipedian - this is a non-wiki thing. Take it to a personal webpage if you want. Ratagonia 15:23, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
Ok. There seems to be no interest in the list so I'm deleting it. Apologies to whoever designed it. Silentrunner

[edit] Link to American Rock

The link in the sources and notes sections links to the Wikipedia article "American Rock," when I think it should probably link to the book being referenced too. I'm not sure where that link is, so I couldn't change it. Ohthelameness 23:43, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Sourcing

Additions need sourcing. Also, only the most noteworthy ascents should be noted. Ratagonia (talk) 17:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


Here's my justification: This page is far too dependent on this "Big Wall" source, which is why we get things like "Comici... Pretty much the inventor of big wall climbing" which is a complete lie, so what is to stop the rest of that article being untrue? Another half-truth is that "Pierre Allain championed bouldering at Fontainebleau" in the 1930s, ignoring the fact that it had been in development in other parts of Europe, especially Britain, since the 1880s. Therefore I will delete evereything I find to be exaggerated or just bullshit because obviously you continentals can't be trusted to paint an accurate picture of history, even if it's just the history of mountaineering. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.241.177.229 (talk) 13:01, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

I know it's appealing to see your countrymen as a pioneers of mountaineering at the expense of other countries but the more you delude yourself by adding credibility to your claims with Wikipedia, the more it's going to hurt when you're forced to realize the truth. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.241.177.229 (talk) 13:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)