Talk:Historical urban community sizes

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[edit] Initial talk

There is an article you guys might interesting; take a look - Largest Cities Through History --Kerry7374 03:43, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Yes Please merge them, the other article is too short. Oidia 22:39, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

As usual, Eastern Europe seems not to exist before 1600. In the meantime, the latest edition of the Britannica puts the population of medieval Sarai (city) at 600,000. Smolensk was the largest city in the Grand Duchy of Lithuania when Lithuania was the largest state in Europe. Previously, the article estimated its medieval population at 200,000 but it has since been removed. Ditto for Kiev, which counted some 400 churches before 1200. --Ghirla -трёп- 11:36, 16 August 2006 (UTC)


The popluation for NY in the last chart is for the state, not the city. I think that may be the case for the other numbers for it. --Conquistador48

I have been told repeatedly that Edo was the largest city in the world from roughly 1650 on, for at least a century. I'm still trying to find sources to back me up on this, but I trust my professors on this... weird that Edo isn't even mentioned at all on the other page. LordAmeth 08:01, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Most of the data in this article are actually from Chandler's book revised in 1987, but the references are not united. Modelski's new book also provides other information on population of cities over 10,000 (till 1000 B.C.), or over 100,000 (till A.D. 1000).125.198.53.61 14:14, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

The population estimates which appear in“The Making of Urban Europe 1000-1950” are actually borrowed from Chandler and Fox (1974). These should be substituted by the data from Chanler's 1987 revised book.

I have recently revised "List of largest cities throughout history," and I'm now planning to update this article citing data from G. Modelski (2003), T. Chandler (1987; till 1975), P. Bairoch (1988, only for Europe 800-1850), United Nations Urbanization Prospects (only after 1950), and some from Demographia, B. R. Mitchell, or V. Shower's books (only after 1750 or 1800). But the list I've made is already too vast... (Even list of top 10 cities consists of 200 or more cities.)61.203.20.254 16:34, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Merge removal

Someone suggested that we should merge this article with List of largest cities throughout history. But since no one has said anything since then, I'd say that the articles should not be merged. I have also removed the template. Oidia (talk) 01:26, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

it's the exact same scope. See WP:CFORK. They should be merged. If this has remained unaddressed, this just means nobody could be bothered so far, not that it shouldn't be done. dab (𒁳) 13:31, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
Well somebody do it then, it's been around for so long. Oidia (talk) 13:43, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Paris in the middle ages

1250 / 80 000 isn't it a low number. Consider please : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Paris Isidoros47 (talk) 13:03, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] NYC stats wildly inaccurate

Possible confusion betwen NYC and NY State? --135.196.27.80 (talk) 21:26, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

That certainly seems to be the case. Well, either that, or it's counting the greater metropolitan area. In any case, the Wikipedia article for the City claims a current population of roughly 8.2 million. I'm going to go stick that number into the chart. We need a reliable, citable source for the city's population in 1950 and 2000. LordAmeth (talk) 01:04, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
The number was likely referring to the metropolitan area (which, coincidentally, it about the same at the state population). It should be decided whether the populations for the 20th century should be for the city proper or the metropolitan area. As of right now, Los Angeles is shown to have a larger population than New York, which really isn't appropriate due to the fact that the metro population of Los Angeles is shown, but New York's is not. Melancholia i (talk) 18:50, 26 May 2008 (UTC)