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[edit] Fantasizing Hindutash
user:Hindutashravi: I don't know what irredentist fantasy you are operating under, but the so-called Hindutash Davan was never a part of Kashmir or Ladakh. It was shown to be a part of Chinese Turkestan in the 1909 Imperial Gazetteer Map of India. In 1857, when the Schlagintweit brothers explored the area, it was even farther from the boundaries of Kashmir than it was in 1909. If you have the urge to write historical fantasy, please consider fiction, not Wikipedia. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC) PS. For someone who claims to have created this article, you don't even have a very clear sense where the pass is. The article is poorly written. You have the name "Schlagintweit" spelled wrong. You use the expression inter alia in a way that shows incomplete understanding. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:11, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
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- Hindutashravi: You don't have any references. You claim your citation is "Gazetteer of Kashmir and Ladakh," but who published it and where? Please provide precise references before you revert; otherwise, I will be forced to bring it up on the Wikipedia notice board. OK? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] 3RR block - 24 hours
--Ragib 21:18, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
- Hi, Ravi. I've noticed that Fowler&fowler is a reasonable editor who is ready to discuss differences in a calm and informed manner. He is highly approachable and is not out to insult or humiliate newer users like you. But if you cannot precisely identify the sources backing up your edits, though, he (and other Wikipedians) will not compromise on the key Wikipedia policy of verifiability. Please read up on it, since it will definitely help you avoid needless disputes like this. Thanks. Saravask 15:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
--User:Hindutashravi What references does Fowler have to show that Aksai Chin is disputed? Absolutely nothing! As a matter of fact, the Two maps clearly depict Aksai Chin as part of Kashmir. The only thing that he wants is to say that "Hindutash is in so called Chinese Turkistan" for which where are his references? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hindutashravi (talk • contribs).
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- Hindutash has nothing to do with Aksai Chin. Hindutash is north of Aksai Chin, north of the Karakorams. With the exception of the map of W. H. Johnson (who later joined the service of Gulab Singh, the erstwhile Maharaja of Kashmir, and who was discredited) all other maps: those of the Schlagintweit brothers, H. Trotter, Aurel Stein, Imperial Gazetteer of India, all regard Hindutash as a part of Chinese Turkestan and not India or Kashmir. How did you manage to acquire it for India? Even the Indian government doesn't regard it as a part of Aksai Chin. I have provided all the references in the article. Where are yours? Fowler&fowler«Talk» 02:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
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- Hindutash is in northern Aksai Chin. W.H. Johnson’s survey established certain important points. Brinjga was in his view the boundary post ( a few miles south east of Karanghu Tagh). Johnson’s findings demonstrated that the whole of the Kara Kash valley was part of Kashmir territory. The Maharaja of Kashmir had built a Fort in Shahidulla in exercise of his sovereignty. What right has China whom you are supporting, have over this area? Absolutely nothing. Of course, to you might is right. Though, all other maps: those of the Schlagintweit brothers, H. Trotter, Aurel Stein, Imperial Gazetteer of India, do not depict that part of India as part of Kashmir, never the less depict the northern border just short of the actual Kuen Lun border of Kashmir and depict the border along the Raskam River depicting inter alia Kulanaldi and Bazardara , and Taghdumbash Pamir as part of Kashmir. The border was never depicted along the Karakoram in central Kashmir as is done illegally now. Most of the maps you refer to infact depict the Yarung Kash as originating in Aksai Chin. Johnson knew about the status quo pertaining to that particular area that was prevailing during his time. He has been discredited by those who hate India. I did not acquire Hindutash for India. Hindutash has always been part of India. You are trying to acquire it for China which does not have an iota of right over the part of India. What the subservient Government of India regards is irrelevant. What territory constitutes India is defined in the Constitution of India , and the Constitution of India has to be amended to serve your ulterior purpose. Hindutashravi
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Hindutash. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. Cheers, JetLover (talk) 03:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Blocked for 3RR
You have been blocked yet again for 3RR violation. Please try to discuss disputes on the articles talk page instead of edit warring. --Cheers, JetLover (talk) 03:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) Please also note that, if the disruption continues, block periods will be steadily lengthened, possibly resulting in an indefinite block. Thanks. Saravask 03:20, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Signing Your Name
Dear Hindutashravi, it is better to sign in as yourself and then sign your post by typing four tildes as in ~~~~ than editing as an IP 59.92.47.193 (talk · contribs) and typing your name [[user:Hindutashravi|Hindutashravi]] as you have done both on this page above and in your post on my page (as another IP: 59.92.43.200 (talk · contribs). Why don't we continue the substantive discussion on the talk page Talk:Hindutash? I will reply to your post there. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:53, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
