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Hinder Remakes Rock Classic "Born To Be Wild" for TNT’s 2007 NASCAR Coverage: Turner Network Television announced that they have teamed with multi-platinum rockers Hinder to remake Steppenwolf’s classic hit single “Born to be Wild” as the network’s beat-driven anthem to promote its 2007 NASCAR Nextel Cup Series coverage. The song will serve as the primary musical bed for all six of TNT’s races, as well as for the network’s multiplatform marketing campaign surrounding its exclusive race coverage. To accompany Hinder’s cover of the rock-and-roll classic, the network is also producing a full-length music video of the song for the band that will debut exclusively on NASCAR.COM on June 6.(TNT PR)(5-2-2007)

How am i supposed to add that onto the bands wikipedia site? it wont let me.

[edit] Pop Metal?

Pop Metal is Glam, so I believe Pop Metal should be changed to Glam... Even if they don't have the look.

  • They aren't Hair Metal either. Heck, post-grunge is a style, not a genre. On top of that, any rock from the 90s is considered "grunge" so if it was made after the 90s, its "Post Grunge." Its all ridiculous. DJKingpin 04:13, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Hunh. You'd've thought Firehouse, Trixter, and Nelson were Hair Metal, not grunge. lol

Look not all music is post grunge, Metal is gonna make a comeback I assure you. Not all rock was Grunge in the 90s. It was popular but doesnt mean everyone was on its awful bandwagon.

What are Hinder? people Post Grunge or Heavy Metal, cause I am fed up of seeing pseudo punk untalented school kids controlling music.

Hinder is a Modern Pop Metal/Post Grunge band. The get mis-classified, but how can you not hear any GNR or AC/DC in the band. If they're post-grunge, start calling GNR post-grunge. I think Post-Grunge is a dead genre. All the Post-Grunge bands of today are considered Metal anyways, Staind, Hidner, Stone Sour, Nickelback, etc. HINDER IS POP METAL! They are no different from Buckcherry, which is a Pop Metal band. Also, the guy who said not all rock in the 1990's was grunge is right. AiC and Soundgarden are considered Heavy Metal and I think that the same goes for Hinder, if you consider Hair Metal to be Metal.

That's an ignorant statement, Buckcherry is far from "Pop-Metal" They don't even sound remotely the same as Hinder or Nickelback...

Alice in Chains and Soundgarden are pretty much the epitomy of grunge. Whoever said they are heavy metal and not grunge doesn't know what they are talking about. --BennyD 14:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Staind, Stone Sour, Nickelback, etc. considered "metal"? On what planet? AiC and Soundgarden were not "metal" either. Not even close. Those statements are completely ignorant, and any article on a site that's meant to be factual should not call Hinder a "metal" band. Not "Pop metal" either, because there's no such thing. Hinder sounds exactly like every alternative rock band of the early-to-mid 90's, so they should be called alternative 128.237.250.77 05:51, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

I am the guy who said not all bands in the 90s were grunge & its true. But the media fed grungers seem to have a problem with glam metal. Buckcherry are more of a 70's hard rock band with some glam metal in them. So they are not post grunge. The guy is right AIC & Soundgarden are very much Heavy Metal bands. Plus all the alt-metal bands post 98 have included metal in there sound as well as punk & grunge. Right now thankfully most bands are becoming metal in the main!

  • Imagine for moment that it's Axl Rose singing the song, and it's not hard to hear a strong GNR influence there, with 00's Nickelback sound production, complete with cliched chord progressions a la Firehouse. The band would have been multi-millionaires had it been released in 1991. They still might end up that way, but it'll take them two years rather than two weeks to rake in the bling. Daskunt 18:29, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
We need to remember that Wikipedia is not a message board. This is not the area to discuss if Hinder "rawx/suxxx" Doc Strange 12:18, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

At least I see someone has a bit of a mind here. For the people who grew up in the 90's and after, I could understand why they would have a hard time seeing Hinder as a rock band. You don't really have a lot to compare it to. To really see it, you have to do as mentioned above, pull out the Guns & Roses, the Whitesnake, Van Halen, Queensryche and the like. If the only example of rock you have to compare them to is Nirvana and the rest of the Grunge bandwagon, you have a very misconstrued view of what rock really is.

i think you have a misconstrued view of what rock is. besides van halen and gnr the above bands are joke rock bands. they all played into the same stupid "party Time" rock and roll. listen to zeppelin, flolyd, sabbath, cream etc that is rock. not crappy hair metal bands who can't not fail to write a song from the perspective of a penis.

the only reason media thinks that grunge hates glam is cuz of nirvana. nirvana spread interest away from glam, and onto grunge. and hair metal isn't all that bad, sure it may sound really repetitive, but there are still good hair metal bands out there, like twisted sister. also, hinder is not metal in any way. guys, please, get real. it's already getting on my nerves just to call them "hard rock", since they're not even quite as heavy as nickelback (who isn't heavy at all). Itachi1452 22:29, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

[edit] WTF??

um...where the hell is the page??????

Mention feud with OK Go? 70.145.154.52 09:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many errors

This article is littered with errors about Hinder. Not opinion based error but fact based.

I second that, "Lips of an Angel" peaked at #3 on the Billboard Hot 100, not #1. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.243.96 (talk) 00:44, August 29, 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Biased much?

Maybe I'm wrong but... "The band's second single, "Lips of an Angel", became a smash hit as the song made its way up the charts and the band received nationwide attention."

Is smash hit a technical term? If so how is a "smash hit" defined? This article definitely needs some editing from someone who has never heard of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.102.159.206 (talk) 00:22, 7 December 2006 (UTC).

It is leading the iTunes charts. Thats a pretty good indicator. I actually changed "nationwide" to "international" in that sentence, which I felt as being more appropriate as they are also acheiving significant success on the Australian charts. AussieNickuss 12:13, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Style

The article reads like a fanzine not an encyclopedia. -- Beardo 22:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why two of the same article?

Am I the only person who's noticed the article was duplicated on the same page? Tried to delete the second one but was told i was blanking pages anmd committing vandalism. Little help? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.211.253.57 (talk) 16:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC).

I am watching it intently. Someone keeps adding the bottom part back on, so I am going to keep deleting it until they go away. DJKingpin 18:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Two of the same article, and fake site

I noticed the double article problem, I've been cleaning that up as well. But also, on the links, someone keeps putting www.ilovelipsofanangel.com as a source.

[edit] Dead?

A few days ago, I read on this page that the lead singer of Hinder died late December/January ((I forget what I read)) of alcohol poisoning. Now I can't find it. Was the "he's dead" thing a lie, or was it real?

I heard he died of an OD Wikizilla (Signme!)Talk 20:28, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Austin didn't die, all you have to do is go look at any news page on the web. I constantly keep watch on this page to delete things like that when they come up. DJKingpin 22:37, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Are vs. Is

The band name "Hinder" is a collective term, therefore when using the name of the band in a descriptive manner, it should be said that "Hinder are a..." etc, rather than "Hinder is a..." etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.241.3.79 (talk) 07:47, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Can this be locked?

Every time I check Hinder's page, there is at least one comment about them being gay. Something probably should be done about this. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Merzie250 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC). yeah people should stop deleting those

[edit] Jack Ingham's Next Album

Does this information need to be on the Hinder page?

"whose next album is tentatively titled This is It?(the fans will surely think the same thing" Has nothing to do with Hinder.

Narmowen 01:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Hinder is currently on tour with Burden Brothers and Black Stone Cherry and is currently being reamed by any who is willing. The band played three dates with the mega suck band Aerosmith in December 2006.[1] Hinder jumped on to the rock scene with their debut single "take it in the ass".

Narmowen 03:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Videography

Note that the Videography has been merged here from Hinder discography as per Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hinder discography. See that history for GFDL attribution purposes. DES (talk) 20:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Locking the Page

After many bouts of vandalism, is there anyway to lock the page? Narmowen 07:16, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Years active vs. Year formed

the first paragraph says they were formed in 2001, but the years active says 2005. WTF? Jt_200075 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jt 200075 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] CD+DVD Deluxe Edition

Has anyone else picked up on the track, Running In The Rain, noted in the Deluxe Edition booklet, leading to it being the Get Stoned (Piano Version). Also that on the Get Stoned single it has a different person doing the drumming? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.72.35.79 (talk) 06:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Hinder homecoming queen.jpg

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[edit] Fair use rationale for Image:Lipsofanangel.jpg

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