Talk:Herta Müller

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[edit] Further reading and sources

I created this article as a translation of the corresponding German article. I considered the works listed there under "Literatur" to be that page's sources, and as such listed them here as sources for this article. If these aren't sources, and the German article indeed has no sources, then there is a problem here. Otherwise, these should be listed as reference. I'm not sure that they'd make very good "further reading", given that they are mostly German texts, and this is the English language Wikipedia. - Rainwarrior 03:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I think that "Literatur"'s purpose was to list works about Müller (as a side note, though I would not miss them if they were all deleted, I don't think it is relevant that they are German-language and this is enwiki).

Now, I dislike the "this other wiki article was used as a source" system, because it contradicts the notion that wikipedia is not a source for wikipedia (and, alas, it is not a source in general), and because there frankly isn't anything in the article that couldn't be picked up in simple 2 minute google search. On the other hand: the "External links" section currently has an article on her which could easily be turned into a cited source, and a similar google search (or google book search) would help double the content of this article and help cite every single statement. Why not do that? Dahn 04:30, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what the guideline is for labelling your sources on German Wikipedia; I've seen some articles with "Quellen", and others with "Literatur" where it is obvious that they are source material for the article. In this case though, it's not clear, I suppose. I made the assumption that they are sources, but if this is untrue that article is unsourced, and so is this one (and we should use an appropriate template to flag it as such). The tag that mentions that this article was translated is not a "source" in the sense that it is supposed to verify the content of the article, but rather a way to inform the person looking for verification or more information that they should also check that article if possible (or, when under the assumption that those things were sources, it's an explanation of where they came from). I'm not positing "German wiki says so" as verification, but I think the note that it was translated from it is useful. I don't really like using websites as sources if it can be avoided (though as attribution they're fine). I couldn't find much English material on her doing a google search; if you can find anything good, add it. As "further reading", I don't think this list of books really helps the article much, so they might as well be removed. - Rainwarrior 05:56, 20 July 2007 (UTC)