Talk:Henry Wriothesley, 3rd Earl of Southampton

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What does it mean to "cole and hug?" It's marked off with quotation marks, but there is no citation to be found. Can anyone help clarify this? The reference is under the heading on the association between Wriothesley and the Earl of Essex.

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[edit] New Earl of Oxford Paternity Theory

This section violates wikipedia guidelines on several counts, starting with its reliance on self-published material by an author with no standing in the fields of Shakespearean studies or early modern English history. Whittemore's unproven theories are presented without qualification as facts. The book is hyped as "setting forth a consistent and coherent explanation of the sequence of the sonnets as they follow events from Henry Wriothesley’s life," a description that will amaze the vast majority of readers as an overstatement entirely contrary to the principles of careful elucidation of controversial claims on which Wikipedia has built its reputation. It would be appropriate to eliminate the entire section and replace it with a more detailed but balanced account of the history of Southampton's possible involvement as fair youth of the Shakespearean sonnets as propounded by various scholars. --Twinkletoes2u 15:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Agreed. I have tagged it. If there's a more appropriate tag, please update. - PKM 17:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation of Name

Concerning the pronunciation of Wriothesley's name, is it 'Rye-slee' or 'Rizz-lee'. This could be clearer. --Grantsky (talk) 14:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Onlie Begetter

In the passage about Thorpe's dedication of the sonnets to the "onlie begetter", down a couple of lines there is the word "better". Is this a misspelling of "begetter"? Otherwise, the meaning of these sentences is unclear. -- Grantsky (talk) 14:09, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Life Under King James I (and IV)

Was it Grey or Wriothesley who was in great trouble in 1621? Which took up the Protestant side in Germany, and proposed action against the Barbary pirates? The passage is ambiguous. If it is Wriothesley we're talking about, the sentence about Grey should be in parentheses. -- Grantsky (talk) 14:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)