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[edit] Origin

The Early Life section says that he was born in Germany, yet the infobox says Wales. Which is it?

I moved the pirate back here because Special:Whatlinkshere/Henry Morgan makes it clear that he's the primary topic. —Charles P. ^(Mirv) 23:10, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

One of the introductory paragraphs currently reads "Therefore it is more likely that he was the 'Captain Morgan' who joined the fleet of Christopher Myngs in 1663 and accompanied the expedition of John Morris and Jackman when the Spanish settlements at Vildemos, Trujillo and Granada were taken." This is confusing. "More likely" than what? Or, "he" who? Anyone with the expertise to clarify is encouraged to edit. Robert K S 17:43, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

"He recaptured the island of Santa Catalina"--which Santa Catalina? The link currently leads to a disambiguation page, so it is impossible to tell which Santa Catalina is being referred to. Robert K S 17:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

"When Thomas Lynch died in 1684, his friend Christopher Monck"-- Whose friendwas he? The way it is written sounds like he was Lynch's friend, but this doesn't seem to make sense in the context of the rest of the paragraph. Was Monck Lynch's friend or Morgan's friend, or should "friend" be dropped entirely? Demonbug 18:02, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

In a documentary i heard he was born in Germany to his - there stationed - father and his german wife "Anna Petronella", who was the daughter of Lippstadt's mayor. source (german): http://www.prosieben.de/lifestyle_magazine/galileo/spezial/karibik/

Have added the missing parts of his half-German origin. Marcuse7 09:20, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:MILHIST Assessment

Could afford to be longer. The intro sentence is beautifully succinct, but I wonder too about that. What else can be put here? LordAmeth 11:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] German Origin

A documentation reported, that his full name was Johann Henry Morgan, and that he was the son of a english officer in germany and a german woman. They reported, that he was born an raised in Germany. --DarkScipio 21:35, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

What "documentation"? Who are these "they"? Morgan is a Welsh name. Descendents of Sir Henry's brother still live in Clwyd. --Wetman 15:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

DNB says son of Robert Morgan of Llanrhymny, early education unknown; suggestions, but no evidence that he came to Jamaica as an indentured servant or a soldier in Cromwell's capture of Jamaica (and quotes his surgeon as saying he came there as a "private gentleman" in 1658, when he was about 23, and rose by valor.) If there were evidence for a German mother, or a kidnapping, they would say so. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 03:42, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Good call. DNB is reassuring: could you edit the reference into the article? --Wetman 06:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks; both DNB and this article are long, so making them jibe will be a job of work. I'll put it on my agenda. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I marked the assumption that "Therefore it is more likely that he was the "Captain Morgan"..." who fought with Myngs with {{who}}. A perfectly reasonable speculation; I have no doubt someone made it, and it may well be consensus. More important than attribution is the wording: is this Henry or Edward Morgan? I would edit, but I'm not quite sure myself. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 15:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Africa

I doubt the part about the 20 women in Africa. In everything I ever read about Morgan, I don't remember him visiting Africa at all. I'll leave it in for now, in case somebody here can substantiate it. In the meantime, though, I'm going to move the tale to some place where it doesn't mess up the narrative of the Portobello attack. --Pirate Dan 19:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I have discovered that the story about the African women was added from a shared college IP address with a long history of vandalism. I'm going to delete the reference. Anyone who can find a source for the story is welcome to add it back in. --Pirate Dan 13:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] umm?

"In late 1665, Morgan commanded a ship in the old privateer Edward Mansfield's[3] " does this mean henry morgan's uncle or was this pirate so notorious that at 2 years of age he commanded a ship? or perhaps the date is wrong... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.146.227 (talk) 02:27, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that "De Americane Zee-Roovers" is not the dutch translation for "History of Buccaneers in America". I don't know what the right one would be, so I'm not going to touch it. 76.205.98.99 (talk) 01:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)