Talk:Henri, Grand Duke of Luxembourg

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Why house of Bourbon-Parma, the official name of his house is Nassau-Weilburg although he is agnatically a Bourbon. The Queen of the Netherlands is also an Orange-Nassau and not a Lippe-Biesterfeld. Xerxes 1.6.2006

Hi Xerxes, please sign your posts with ~~~~. The Grand Duke is correctly categorized because he is a member of the House of Bourbon-Parma (whether he likes it or not, actually, according to the rules of royalty). Of course, one can be the member of additional houses. At this time, however, a Nassau category has not been created. If there were enough articles to warrant a Lippe category than the Queen of the Netherlands would most certainly be in it as well. Charles 16:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Should we mention that Henri is a direct descendant of Hugh Capet in the male line? The Bourbons are a junior line of the Capetians, and he's the great-great-great-great-great grandson of Louis XIV. Assuming all those sons are the children of who they are supposed to be.--Syd Henderson 23:55, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

It is already implied by mention of his membership in the House of Bourbon. I don't think it really needs to be mentioned as it is more of a trivia thing. Charles 00:20, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Actually he was a member of the House of Bourbon-Parma. Grand Duke Henri wanted to marry Maria-Theresa Mestre, but the head of the House of Bourbon-Parma, the Duke of Parma, disapproved that. On the site of Grand Duke Jean:
Jean renounced the titles of the House of Bourbon-Parma for himself and his family in 1986[1] when his eldest son, then-Hereditary Grand Duke Henri married Maria-Theresa Mestre. The reason for this being that the Duke of Parma, Carlos Hugo, ruled the marriage unequal in 1981.
If there was no House of Bourbon-Parma, and there was no head of this house, there wouldn't be all those troubles. Demophon 17:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
He still is a member of the House of Bourbon through the Parma line. The construction "Bourbon-Parma" is a genealogical one and the Duke of Parma is only the head of a ducal family, but not of the House of Bourbon. There is a head of the House of Bourbon, that is the whole house, and there are sub-branches composed of formerly reigning families over which the would-be sovereigns yield jurisdiction only in matters as far as their individual dynastic practises allow. The Duke of Parma, however, cannot kick anyone out of the House of Bourbon of any line because these sub-lines are genealogical constructions which are really only named for, but independent of, the titles that line bore or bears. Charles 22:56, 15 October 2007 (UTC)