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Contents 1 Changes by LessHeard vanU 2 Inadvertent vandalism 3 Grammar School 4 Grammar School alumni

[edit] Changes by LessHeard vanU

I have made several changes to the entry for Helston, and would comment on a few as follows;

Coins were not manufactured in Helston - tin ingots, once essayed by the Customs man, were "coined" i.e. stamped with the Regents mark. The term "stamp" was not used since this term was mining parlance for the crushing of the ore. However, some of the surrounding tin mine owners were permitted to make and distribute their own coins (to be spent in businesses operated by the said mine owners). The "Poldark Mine" themed amusement park in nearby Wendron, formerly a working mine, is a remnant of this practice, issuing "pennies" that can only be spent onsite. This may have been the source of some of the confusion.

Helston was until only a couple of years ago a market town. The recent Foot and Mouth epedemic finally closed the cattle market, which had been already badly hit by the BSE crisis. At the time of writing a few sheds still remain on the old site. As it was the major town in the area the market was an important feature. With the demise of the cattle market all that remains is a few stalls which are put up in the main street every Monday.

The current St. Michaels Church is only some 200 years old - although the site itself goes back to antiquity.

I have worked in Helston for the past 8 years, and locally for some years before.LessHeard vanU 22:32, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Inadvertent vandalism

Apologies to all Helstonians - browser crash and restore left me editing (as I thought) the Transport section and accidentally deleting all the rest of the article. Sorry - all better now. Springnuts 19:31, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar School

Article says: "As a grammar school it boasted Samuel Taylor Coleridge as a headmaster, one of his pupils being Charles Kingsley". Derwent Coleridge, one of ST Coleridge's sons, was headmaster. The WP article on Kingsley makes no mention of Helston and doesn't locate him anywhere near Helston during his childhood. Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 22:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

There's a footnote in A. L. Rowse "Matthew Arnold - Poet and Prophet" ISBN 050001163x, chap 2, p25, about John Duke Coleridge, "Oddly enough, J. D. Coleridge had been at Helston Grammar School in Cornwall with Charles Kingsley". Thomas Arnold, Matthew's father, was an old friend of S. T. Coleridge. DuncanHill (talk) 14:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

OK Kingsley did go to the Grammar School, this from Boston College Libraries at [1]

Charles Kingsley was born on 12 June 1819 at Holne Vicarage near Dartmoor, Devonshire. His father, Charles, though reared to be a country gentleman, had taken Holy Orders because of the financial mismanagement of his inheritance. Kingsley's mother, Mary, more worldly and practical than his father, was born in the West Indies and came from a line of Barbadian sugar-plantation owners. After a short stay at a small preparatory school in Clifton, Kingsley was sent to Helston Grammar School in Cornwall, where the Reverend Derwent Coleridge, Samuel Taylor Coleridge's son, was headmaster. Kingsley was not academically outstanding, though he displayed great interest in art and natural science, especially botany and geology, and wrote much poetry. After the family moved to London in 1836 Kingsley entered King'sCollege as a day student. He did well and in the autumn of 1838 went to Magdalene College, Cambridge, where he graduated with a first class in classics and a second in mathematics.

I shall amend the article text accordingly. DuncanHill (talk) 14:59, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Kingsley's ODNB article confirms Helston Grammar School. WP Article on Kingsley said "Bristol Grammar". Have changed this too.Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 18:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Grammar School alumni

ODNB text search "Helston Grammar School" gives -

• Edmonds, Richard (1801–1886), antiquary and geologist
• ...political economist Thomas Rowe Edmonds. He was educated at Penzance grammar school and, from 1816, at Helston grammar school. He was articled as an attorney with his father in ...
• Johns, Charles Alexander (1811–1874), writer on natural history ... Plymouth, where he added the ‘s’ to his surname. In 1831 Johns was second master at Helston grammar school, under the Revd Derwent Coleridge 1800–1883. Charles ...his ambivalent attitude towards popular politics in later years. The following year the boys went to Helston grammar school in Cornwall, a small school run by Revd Derwent Coleridge, ...
• Rogers, John (1778–1856), Church of England clergyman and biblical scholar ...for Penryn and Helston, and his wife, Margaret, daughter of Francis Basset. Rogers was educated at Helston grammar school, at Eton College, and at Trinity College, Oxford. He matriculated ...
• Trengrouse, Henry (1772–1854), inventor of life-saving apparatus ...d. 1784. The family had long been the principal freeholders in Helston. Henry was educated at Helston grammar school, and lived in the town all his life. He was ...
• Trevenen, James (1760–1790), naval officer in the British and Russian services ...of John Trevenen, curate of Camborne, and Elizabeth, née Tellam d. 1799. He was educated at Helston grammar school and from 1773 at the Royal Naval Academy at Portsmouth, ...

Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 18:41, 13 April 2008 (UTC)