Talk:Helena Wolińska-Brus

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Great article! Congrats to the author.

[edit] The article is a copy violation

"More than one person points out a curious irony: Senator Bartoszewski, whom Mrs Brus arrested, is best known for having led the Home Army division which was responsible for rescuing Jews.

He is also an Auschwitz survivor, and now an honorary citizen of Israel.

"Senator Bartoszewski," scoffs Mrs Brus, "I never heard as much about him then as I do now." This may well be true. After all, most of the Home Army officers senior to Senator Bartoszewski were put to death round about the time Mrs Brus was walking the halls of the Ministry of Defence in her military prosecutor's uniform."

Sounds familiar?

Well, that part is straight from [1] - and yes, that is David Irving's site. It is not the only passage from that web site that has been copy-pasted.

Funnily, the remark about Poland being the country of Auschwitz and Birkenau was in fact made by a British journalist, not by Mrs Brus.

I would really like to know who is responsible for this...

[edit] WP:BLP concerns

This article is much more negative in tone than the sources listed. I am reducing this to a stub per WP:BLP. Please use citation style when adding negative information.--BirgitteSB 14:22, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Considering the copy violation, why not delete?--Pan Gerwazy 15:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually when I really looked at the text compared to the sources; I had to removed a lot of copyright violations as well as BLP concerns. It is not, however, a straight cut-and paste copyright violation.--BirgitteSB 15:18, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I just restored my own edits after an editor put some of the previous wording back. IIRC this wording often matches complete sentences from the external links given. Also you cannot say that she knew the executed general was innocent without a source. I have read all the sources given in this article and the closet they come is saying the prosecution in Poland alleges that she knew of his innocence. When adding more information to this article, especially negative information, please use citations.--BirgitteSB 19:24, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I second your restoration. Unless this can be substantiated (and I think the only place where something may be found is the 1956 case against her) your version should be treated as the consensus one. By the way, whois evidence seems to point out the anonymous editor restoring this stuff is from ... Amsterdam of all places!. It is an IP address from KPN, one of the main providers in the Netherlands. However, it could be a Polish editor having fun with an open proxy. There have been some concerns lately about User:Molobo doing stuff like that. Whether the anonumous editor is Polish or not, (s)he should take an account to dispell these fears.--Pan Gerwazy 21:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)